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you're in the para cast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio and now

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here's gene Steinberg back from his

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hiatus we have Chris O'Brien here with

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gene Steinberg on the power cast we've

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got loads of listen to questions and

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when we bring on Stanton Friedman in our

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next segment it's gonna be an

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action-packed episode all the way

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through we're gonna ask him some real

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hard questions but we won't prejudge

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that right now let's just go we have to

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be careful he's still feeling gingerly I

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would imagine he is but you know giving

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people stents these days which is the

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treatment he underwent after he had a

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mild heart attack that's nothing unusual

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anymore I mean we've got Dick Cheney

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running around with 400 heart attacks

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and a new heart and he's out there and

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he's raring to go well for a guy with no

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heart he ensure has had some heart

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problems yes you could say that

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now all the Dick Cheney fans out there

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are going to hate us but so what

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anyway you weren't here last week and

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you were in a place where there was no

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internet which unfortunately isn't far

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too many places in the United States no

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and your cell phone reception was

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pathetic so every third word was

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inaudible so where were you in the San

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Luis Valley in South Central Colorado

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where I spent an action-packed 13 years

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10 of which were involved in

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investigating hundreds and hundreds of

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claims of the unusual and whatnot I went

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out for a variety of reasons but one of

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the main reasons was to touch bases with

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old friends and also do a mini book

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signing presentation in Alamosa Colorado

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which went really well

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they also got together with my old band

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laughing Buddha for the first time in 16

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17 years and we're going to be doing a

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little recording and we release our

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album that we did 20 years ago for the

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20th anniversary of that album's release

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so

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it was fun I had a good time on the way

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back I also stopped in an area on the

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Navajo Reservation that has had quite a

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bit of amazing UFO activity over the

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past 10 years it's around the Satan's

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Butte

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Indian Wells area of the Navajo res and

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I did some video taping out there and

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some running around on jeep roads and

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trying to get a lay of the land out

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there it's a pretty interesting spot and

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I would love to get together with some

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folks and maybe do a multi-day

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expedition out there and do some quality

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sky watching all these places you go to

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you ever think ETS you're gonna be

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watching you they're gonna pick you off

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and maybe you're not gonna come back as

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a half serious question nope never

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enters my mind you know with all this

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stuff and poking around in places that

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are pretty remote and impossibly near

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military facilities or their Native

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American reservations it's the people

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that are more of a concern and then

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anything that goes bump in the night you

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really do have to tread carefully in

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some of these areas and I've gotten I

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think pretty good at at doing that I

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don't have any qualms at all about being

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anal probe doored abducted or something

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all right let me ask you a question here

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and I'll tell you why I'm asking you

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this question all right now listeners

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know that I probably have never seen a

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UFO or maybe I did once back in the late

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60s now you've had UFO sightings have

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you ever seen a UFO at fairly close

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range yeah okay yeah absolutely under 50

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feet away once or twice that particular

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time was only one time I've also had a

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that was the structured craft in broad

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daylight 50 feet above the road that

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flashed right in front of costal road in

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front of us as we were traveling south

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on highway 69 in the where Forno valley

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and i got to watch it for about 20 to 30

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seconds as it went across the valley the

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other time was we were coming back

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coming back from Denver and we were on

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highway 260 or 160 just east of Fort

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Garland and we had this you know I

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estimated it at about beachball size

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maybe a little smaller or volleyball

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sized a little smaller of a

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brilliant laser red light that paste the

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car it was maybe 60 70 feet off to the

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left side of the car and it just flew

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right along side us for I don't know 10

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seconds maybe and then zipped off and

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that was pretty impressive that was of

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course at night how it was it again 60

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feet maybe okay under definitely okay

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and that's these are the only ones well

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in terms of yeah I mean close enough you

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could throw a rock and hit him yeah most

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most other sightings have been a greater

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distance I've had a number within a mile

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in fact one one event I was 13 different

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objects I'm not sure what they were

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probably military but they they were

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able to hover go backwards forwards

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there were 13 of them within five miles

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of us without a single int of a sound

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all right let's talk about the article

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article from McClelland posted by open

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minds just the other day it's headlined

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the possible unsettling implications of

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UFO sightings and he has interviews with

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a number of UFO abduction researchers

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including dr. David Jacobs Kathleen

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Martin and a few others and the theory

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posted here and not everyone here agrees

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with it necessarily or agrees completely

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with it is that people who have close

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range UFO sightings that are repeated

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may be seeing the beginning or end of a

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suppressed UFO abduction okay I want

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that to sink in hold on let me let me

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let me check mine my rear end here nope

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nope it's all intact no gene I you know

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I like Mike I think he's a pretty

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interesting out-of-the-box thinker but

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you know I don't think you can you can

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take such a broad brushstroke and apply

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it in this fashion

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I think the abduction phenomenon is far

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more psychological than you know a lot

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of abduction researchers and and fans of

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that particular puzzle would admit I

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think we're dealing with something

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that's infinitely more complex and I

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don't really think you can you can take

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that brush and make that broad

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brushstroke and say if you've had a

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close proximity UFO sighting you're

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being abducted or

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a higher chance or a greater chance of

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coming in and out of a period of being

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abducted I I have not seen that in the

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literature I haven't encountered that in

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my own work so I died of course I have

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to read the article before I can really

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pass judgment on it but my inclination

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would be to to kind of lean away from

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that sort of generalization I think some

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people have this theory that

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occasionally that's true which it might

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well be but some people take the broad

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brush approach which is that it has to

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be the same in every single case which

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is always a problem I do agree that that

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is you just can't you can't come up with

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these general generalized rules of thumb

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and it like that it it's just I don't

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think it works the problem always has

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been the UFO field is that when we try

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such as five year cycles seven-year

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cycles whatever suddenly the UFOs come

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back and just foul everything up again

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and yes I have found that definitely as

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soon as you establish what you think is

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a viable pattern it tends to support

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that pattern until you open your big

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mouth and start talking about it and

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then it doesn't 180 right it's part of

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the UFO game I guess dad yep it's also

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something you've written about in

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stalking the trickster the fact that

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there are these things happening in the

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UFO field that somebody is manipulating

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them or something and maybe they're

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playing tricks on us but some of those

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tricks may not be too pleasant but I

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will ask Stanton Friedman about what he

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does he think that repeated close-up UFO

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sightings might indicate somebody's been

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abducted you know well I mean I I could

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see how Mike would would you know pause

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at that particular hypothesis and in

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like you just stated before

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yo I'm sure that some abductees could

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report that sort of close proximity

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these close

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proximity sighting events I you know

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there is that obviously that possibility

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but I think in high areas of high

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incidents like the San Luis Valley or

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I think it's just the just being in the

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right place at the wrong time or the

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wrong place at the right time however

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you want to state that I think a lot of

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it is just coincidental it's just you

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know you happen to be returning home on

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that road at that particular time you

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look up and you see a huge flying flying

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triangle or something I I don't think

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that you're more likely to be abducted

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if that's the case I think the abduction

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phenomenon is infinitely more

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complicated than that so much more to

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talk about there we have Stanton

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Friedman coming up this week with Jean

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now there is the coming of the

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protectors a former military

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intelligence man is contacted by a space

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woman in a dream a dream that turns out

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to be a nightmare

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because evil forces on our distant

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planet are planning to conquer the earth

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this is gripping science fiction of the

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classic kind attack of the rock codes

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and the coming of the protectors find

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for spending and stimulus what's worse a

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to go folks Stanton T Friedman is on

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this week on the para cast with Gian

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Chris now I just talked to stand for

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about three seconds and he sounds you

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know the sky is 80 years old which used

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to be old now what is it 80 as a new 50

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stand well new 50 new 60 I don't know I

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don't care so just tell listeners

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briefly what happened there you had a

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mild heart attack yeah in June 27 family

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reunion was the next day on the 28th and

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I celebrated the night before by having

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a heart attack and went to got taken to

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the hospital and interned I spent a week

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total of two hospitals had a couple of

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stents put in I was never really ill I

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was born at the hospital didn't have

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much to do or read four books at the one

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down in st. John they have library

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selection and I've been doing fine I was

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not bedridden I was not sickly have as

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much energy as I did before but catch up

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on that I plan to be lecturing about the

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end of August and early September and in

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October and so on my web site triple w

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dot Stanton Friedman dot-com well we're

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really glad to hear that you're going

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strong and that we hope you'll be doing

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this when you're 95 what I'm hoping for

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both my parents live to be 90 so you

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know with a later generation I should be

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able to get to 95 why not but I I'm

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sorry I thought I was going to set a

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record of 80 years without having spent

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overnight in the hospital that was one

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month short less that's still a great

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hopefully person basically a healthy

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person and I expect to continue that

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okay so therefore we will not hold back

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on the hard questions okay that's right

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okay right I'm gonna ask you a hard one

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right off the bat because

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listeners have asked about this now I

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know you are gracious enough to accept a

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lot of invitations to appear on radio

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shows TV shows you go out and do the

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lectures and you were interviewed by a

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couple of people who run a Google

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channel called third phase of Moon

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remember that if it's what I think it

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was that was one of my least favorite

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interviews just tell us more well I'm

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not sure but there there's one program

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where I read recently I wasn't really

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well prepared because I didn't know what

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they were doing you know I tend to take

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programs as they come I don't worry

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about them you don't get into the BIOS

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No so you know was there a particular

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question somebody was I'm happy with how

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I answered her I think the concern is

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that you go there anyway because they've

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been notorious for posting fake UFO

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videos that they tout as genuine in fact

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I saw that oh yeah and there's fair

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evidence they faked some of them that

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their selves we had one of them as twins

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two guys who run the site on our show we

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call them the twins who shall not be

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named you know we kind of gave it to him

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and we said look if you really want help

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to improve your site present stuff that

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really has some value we'll work with

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you Chris personally offered to work

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with them to help them out and this guy

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blew him off well I'm not surprised

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there are people like that and every

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once in a while I meet one not very

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often fortunately and you know it's a

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strange world we live in everybody

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thinks I must get a hard time when I

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lecture I've given over 700 lectures you

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know 50 states ten provinces and 18

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other countries so I get around and I've

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only had eleven hecklers and two of them

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were drunk and that seems to surprise

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people they know I come on very strong

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you know some UFOs are alien spacecraft

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we're dealing with a cosmic Watergate

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there are no good arguments against that

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and cetera but only 11 hecklers well 9

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that weren't drunk anyway so you don't

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have anybody who throws a shoe at you

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for example no I have not had a shoe or

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an egg that's not a challenge to anybody

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out there not a challenge okay the guy

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is a nice man whether you agree with him

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or not

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hold the shoes hold the socks hold of

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tomatoes also make sure that their right

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sides maybe I could use a parachute what

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what is your size in case to get the

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right ones get some Nikes what size okay

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ten and a half Nikes folks if you want

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to throw shoes at them

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brand new ten and a half Nikes don't

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throw it too hard and you gotta throw

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both why not well you do lectures Chris

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what's your shoe size ten and a half

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well you see whatever Stan doesn't use

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he'll send to you okay

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fair enough okay all right I'm gonna hit

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you with an interesting article that

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came out in open minds from my Cleland

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who I'm sure you know and it's entitled

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the possible unsettling implications of

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UFO sightings he interviews abduction

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looks good I haven't read it all but

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gone alright so you get the sense of it

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here any interviews people involved in

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UFO abduction research and I guess the

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implication is that maybe some or maybe

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a great percentage of instances where

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people have more than one close-up UFO

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sighting might also involved suppressed

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abductions what's your sense of that

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well I I did read an article like that

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and I thought some of the reasoning

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wasn't too well done I mean one guy said

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a hundred percent of people who've had a

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sighting have been abducted and I think

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there's some faulty reasoning here to

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give you an example of that all

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great-grandfather's are men that is a

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true statement that certainly doesn't

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mean all men are great-grandfather's so

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lots of people have UFO sightings that

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doesn't mean they've all been abducted

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and I like Kathy Martin's comment

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two-thirds of the people in a survey she

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conducted with her co-author of a book

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about abductions had had a observation

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of a UFO before the sighting she's not

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saying everybody who's had a UFO

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observation has been affected it is not

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too surprising I suppose if two-thirds

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of those who have been abducted did see

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a UFO I mean they don't you know

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suddenly show up out of nowhere

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so that doesn't surprise me but I didn't

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go along with what I heard from Joe

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Mantello who says a hundred percent Dave

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Jacobs Tompkins I I think they're way

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overdone and it goes back frankly that

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early survey that was done it came up

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with that umpteen million figure of UFO

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abductees it was a public opinion poll

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basically and if people answered two of

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the five questions positively it was

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assumed they'd been abducted but they

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had no looking at false positives or

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false negatives either for that matter

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and that's one thing you got to worry

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about with polls they had no survey that

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showed that here's 50 abductees and they

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all answered yes to those two questions

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so we have no no check on that and I

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think the number was smaller than it

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really should have been I was jumping to

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a conclusion based on an incomplete

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understanding of what was going on we're

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just getting started here with Stanton

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Friedman we also have tons of questions

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from our listeners so this is going to

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he's raring to go Stanton Friedman we

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continued talking about the issues we

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were focusing first on an article of my

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Cleland wrote for open minds about

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abductions for the suggestion maybe some

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being heralded by the arrival of UFO

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close UFO sightings herald abductions

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but you know I would wonder here always

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about abduction Stan and that is once an

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alien race assuming it's an alien race

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let's assume all that stuff in advance

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assuming it's an alien race that's here

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and they want to take some genetic

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samples certainly there's so far in

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advance of us why go through all this

622
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painful rigmarole it could be done

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simply painlessly quickly why do they do

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that

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well you know when I took high school

626
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biology a long time ago I cut up a frog

627
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and it's not because I like to eat frogs

628
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it's not because I'm a cool son of a gun

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who wants to cause pain to a dead

630
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perfect but it was part of the

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educational process so we have to be

632
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careful when we jump to motivation yes

633
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I'm convinced as anybody who reads

634
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captured the budding bunny hill UFO

635
00:28:47,410 --> 00:28:45,050
experience for myself in casting Martin

636
00:28:49,570 --> 00:28:47,420
knows that indeed some people have been

637
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abducted but whether it's a learning

638
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experience I mean who knows how many

639
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different civilizations are coming here

640
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and filling up their data bank with

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whatever they learned maybe you know

642
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jokingly say but it's not so funny that

643
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maybe this was a penal colony they

644
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dumped all the bad boys and girls here

645
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and that's why were so nasty to each

646
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other I mean how much master can you get

647
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World War two we only killed 50 million

648
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of our own kind destroyed seventeen

649
00:29:21,130 --> 00:29:18,620
hundred see that's pretty nasty word

650
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:21,140
term I think maybe they're looking to

651
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see what can they do to change where did

652
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they go wrong how did they wind up with

653
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such a collection of nasty guys I get

654
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such a kick out of people say why don't

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they just land and

656
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like on the White House lawn and say hi

657
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there our society should first ask

658
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questions later what a history we have

659
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we've set off 2000 nuclear weapons only

660
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to our people thank goodness look how

661
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many kids die every single day of

662
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preventable disease or starvation I

663
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don't see anybody could say we're nice

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and on top of that people don't seem to

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understand that there's a different you

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mean talking about how people react and

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how governments react who's got the good

668
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radar who's got the gun cameras on

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airplanes

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who's got the spy satellites who are the

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guys with the good data it's not the

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general public it's not the UFO

673
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community it's the military and I find

674
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it kind of strange how some people don't

675
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seem to understand how much money goes

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into the military and to military

677
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intelligence I mean this year is a

678
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planetary budget for things Mars only a

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trillion dollars a trillion dollars the

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00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:38,890
Washington Post this past year said that

681
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the total black budget for military

682
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intelligence work was fifty two point

683
00:30:52,050 --> 00:30:49,780
six billion dollars billion the three

684
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leading agencies being the NSA the CIA

685
00:30:58,710 --> 00:30:56,020
and the NRO now that's not six

686
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professors and twenty graduate students

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and I'm not saying it's all for UFOs

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let's say only 10% only be five billion

689
00:31:09,030 --> 00:31:07,270
dollars what the heck but you know

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there's a real world out there and then

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there's the imaginary one especially

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held by the SETI community you know one

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of my favorite pet peeve SETI silly

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effort to investigate well just can't

695
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imagine that there's going anything

696
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going on besides alien sending radio or

697
00:31:28,970 --> 00:31:27,370
laser signals to get our attention

698
00:31:32,010 --> 00:31:28,980
apparently but using technology

699
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:32,020
appropriate to us think about that our

700
00:31:40,230 --> 00:31:35,010
first long-distance radio signal was

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00:31:42,870 --> 00:31:40,240
1901 1901 and the neighborhood's several

702
00:31:44,690 --> 00:31:42,880
billion years old but no any more

703
00:31:46,230 --> 00:31:44,700
advanced than us anybody who studies

704
00:31:48,870 --> 00:31:46,240
technology

705
00:31:51,540 --> 00:31:48,880
people seem to be unrealistic about

706
00:31:53,310 --> 00:31:51,550
their thinking about aliens and how they

707
00:31:56,340 --> 00:31:53,320
would behave and how we must look to

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them uh you know we're nice friendly

709
00:32:03,299 --> 00:31:59,640
guys why don't they just land and say hi

710
00:32:06,140 --> 00:32:03,309
and why would they use technology that I

711
00:32:10,350 --> 00:32:06,150
want to know that's consistent with our

712
00:32:14,130 --> 00:32:10,360
technology why I have a bigger question

713
00:32:16,380 --> 00:32:14,140
here which is why do we even assume that

714
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:16,390
because an alien race is more advanced

715
00:32:22,460 --> 00:32:19,090
than us they're any different in any

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00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:22,470
other way if they have solved their

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00:32:28,380 --> 00:32:26,050
problems of having wars from amongst

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00:32:30,990 --> 00:32:28,390
tribes and everything else the tribal

719
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:31,000
warfare why assume and maybe I'm taking

720
00:32:35,130 --> 00:32:33,610
the Star Trek approach where they visit

721
00:32:37,169 --> 00:32:35,140
all these worlds and we've got the

722
00:32:39,660 --> 00:32:37,179
Klingons and the Romulans and we're all

723
00:32:41,700 --> 00:32:39,670
fighting each other nothing changes

724
00:32:43,710 --> 00:32:41,710
in the Star Trek universe why assume

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because a race is advanced that they're

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00:32:48,780 --> 00:32:46,570
more peaceful because they're get better

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00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:48,790
at going so if they don't learn how to

728
00:32:55,049 --> 00:32:50,410
get along with their neighbors they

729
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don't exist any longer splat you know

730
00:33:01,080 --> 00:32:58,890
that's one way to look at it anyway that

731
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hopefully they have learned something

732
00:33:07,890 --> 00:33:04,780
and the kicker is all this yeah at the

733
00:33:10,290 --> 00:33:07,900
end of World War two it was perfectly

734
00:33:11,970 --> 00:33:10,300
obvious that we're a primitive society

735
00:33:15,210 --> 00:33:11,980
whose major activity is tribal warfare

736
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:15,220
couple of key factors there one the

737
00:33:19,500 --> 00:33:18,010
nuclear genie is out of the bottle and

738
00:33:21,660 --> 00:33:19,510
the study people don't seem to

739
00:33:24,030 --> 00:33:21,670
understand that that the same energy

740
00:33:26,180 --> 00:33:24,040
that you can use to propel a

741
00:33:28,620 --> 00:33:26,190
nuclear-powered submarine a

742
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nuclear-powered aircraft carrier which

743
00:33:34,830 --> 00:33:31,360
can operate for eighteen years without

744
00:33:37,470 --> 00:33:34,840
refueling think about that for a minute

745
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:37,480
that same energy can be used for

746
00:33:42,450 --> 00:33:39,970
interstellar travel I worked on the

747
00:33:43,710 --> 00:33:42,460
study of fusion propulsion way back in

748
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:43,720
1961

749
00:33:47,669 --> 00:33:45,850
you can kick particles off the back end

750
00:33:49,410 --> 00:33:47,679
of a rocket if ten million times as much

751
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:49,420
energy as they can get in the dumb old

752
00:33:55,950 --> 00:33:52,450
chemical rocket Stan why do we use the

753
00:33:59,040 --> 00:33:55,960
dumb old chemical rockets then because

754
00:34:00,180 --> 00:33:59,050
they're cheaper money is what gets in

755
00:34:03,150 --> 00:34:00,190
the way

756
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:03,160
look two separate uranium isotopes as

757
00:34:09,090 --> 00:34:05,890
World War two the Manhattan Project the

758
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:09,100
first facility a gaseous diffusion plant

759
00:34:15,900 --> 00:34:12,370
at Oak Ridge was a mile long one mile

760
00:34:22,710 --> 00:34:15,910
long pumping little uranium atoms

761
00:34:25,740 --> 00:34:22,720
through a nickel facade we used 5% of

762
00:34:28,710 --> 00:34:25,750
the electrical power being produced in

763
00:34:30,810 --> 00:34:28,720
the United States to pump that gas

764
00:34:33,240 --> 00:34:30,820
through there all done in secret you

765
00:34:35,850 --> 00:34:33,250
understand what I'm saying is money is

766
00:34:38,490 --> 00:34:35,860
an important part of the equation when I

767
00:34:42,990 --> 00:34:38,500
was working on nuclear airplanes believe

768
00:34:45,390 --> 00:34:43,000
it or not at 1958 and ages ago that year

769
00:34:49,110 --> 00:34:45,400
a general electric aircraft nuclear

770
00:34:52,860 --> 00:34:49,120
propulsion department we spent 100

771
00:34:56,900 --> 00:34:52,870
million dollars in that project we

772
00:35:00,420 --> 00:34:56,910
employed 3,500 people full-time at 1,100

773
00:35:03,210 --> 00:35:00,430
engineers and scientists and we never

774
00:35:06,630 --> 00:35:03,220
did build a nuclear powered airplane so

775
00:35:08,310 --> 00:35:06,640
money makes the difference and I'm not

776
00:35:10,050 --> 00:35:08,320
saying we should decide and go to the

777
00:35:13,530 --> 00:35:10,060
stars I don't think the aliens want us

778
00:35:17,250 --> 00:35:13,540
out there especially people who behave

779
00:35:18,810 --> 00:35:17,260
the way we do so I you see on my view of

780
00:35:22,050 --> 00:35:18,820
the neighborhood is that it's loaded

781
00:35:25,790 --> 00:35:22,060
with civilizations well I'd get some

782
00:35:28,350 --> 00:35:25,800
people saying that no look how far it is

783
00:35:31,550 --> 00:35:28,360
probably there might be a civilization

784
00:35:33,330 --> 00:35:31,560
as close as as a thousand light years

785
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:33,340
what am I saying

786
00:35:40,890 --> 00:35:36,490
within 50 40 light years there's 2,000

787
00:35:43,290 --> 00:35:40,900
stars that means a million within the

788
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:43,300
thousand light years so I think the

789
00:35:48,270 --> 00:35:45,850
neighborhood's crowded I think there

790
00:35:52,470 --> 00:35:48,280
have been many colonies many

791
00:35:56,070 --> 00:35:52,480
civilizations and I think if you were a

792
00:35:59,550 --> 00:35:56,080
responsible leader of a distant down the

793
00:36:01,350 --> 00:35:59,560
street other civilization you would want

794
00:36:04,770 --> 00:36:01,360
to know what the threats are to your

795
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:04,780
neighborhood and certainly if you find a

796
00:36:08,940 --> 00:36:06,370
civilization like ours that has suddenly

797
00:36:12,510 --> 00:36:08,950
joined the nuclear Club you see we've

798
00:36:13,980 --> 00:36:12,520
made a big step we learned not very long

799
00:36:15,810 --> 00:36:13,990
ago

800
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:15,820
the major source of energy throughout

801
00:36:21,839 --> 00:36:19,690
the galaxy its nuclear fusion that's

802
00:36:24,660 --> 00:36:21,849
what goes on in h-bombs it's also what

803
00:36:26,460 --> 00:36:24,670
goes on in all the stars that's where

804
00:36:28,740 --> 00:36:26,470
almost all the energy comes from this

805
00:36:31,740 --> 00:36:28,750
nuclear fusion as soon as you join that

806
00:36:34,380 --> 00:36:31,750
Club that means if you wanted to spend

807
00:36:36,930 --> 00:36:34,390
the dough you're able to go

808
00:36:40,109 --> 00:36:36,940
I like the rhyming let's continue this

809
00:36:48,890 --> 00:36:40,119
Stan Freeman's here got more to talk

810
00:36:53,849 --> 00:36:51,660
probably sponsored by unseen now calm

811
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lock down your digital life at unseen

812
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now calm this is G C in attack of the

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rock ODEs has been well received by

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all went downhill from there well we

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haven't had any goals I was in the space

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program and we all thought we'd have a

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colony on the moon already the worst

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meeting I ever attended in my life an

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industry that was an arrow jet visiting

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with my colleague we were both involved

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in radiation shielding for a nuclear

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efficient rockets and Aerojet and

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Westinghouse in Los Alamos each tested

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one very incredible devices incidentally

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and my colleague asked me hey Stan you

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want to go to a meeting the massive

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space nuclear propulsion office is

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having a meeting and what we should do

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with the nuclear rocket engine we were

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both working on it I said yeah sure I'd

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love to go we're sweating I ever

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attended in my life because they didn't

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have the slightest notion of what they

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wanted to do with it we could do this

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not public won't pay for that maybe we

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could do that set up a colony here maybe

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do this maybe what we needed was

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leadership we needed an Admiral rickover

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for those of you don't know who he was

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he was a feisty little guy who was

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responsible for the nuclear submarine

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the nuclear aircraft carrier and so

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forth and some people hated his guts but

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he said look this is where we're going

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you don't want to go there and get off

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the train and determination I've talked

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to people as I say who hated his guts

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but he got the job done he knew where he

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wanted to go NASA was

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ever like that and I'm in about the year

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2000 I was at a conference in Florida

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and there was a NASA guy there you know

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the future of the space program or

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something like we're actually thinking

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about maybe using a nuclear upper stage

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to get us to Mars I thought was we were

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ready to do that in 1970 year 2000 and

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you know we have gone nuclear when it

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comes to weaponry you know like it or

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not look at the jump 1944 big bomb a

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10-ton blockbuster took a huge in quotes

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b-29 to carry it in the first atomic

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bomb the next year 45 released the

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energy none of ten tons of dynamite but

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a 17,000 tons of dynamite and seven

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years after 45 1952 our first h-bomb uh

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10 million tons of tnt energy release

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and russians set one off 50 million tons

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of tnt energy release verge you know we

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were moving in that direction that's for

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sure and 2000 a clear weapons everybody

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thinks oh we only exploded those on

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Hiroshima and Nagasaki well there are

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the only targets we hit but 2,000 other

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weapons so any visiting alien would say

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what's with these guys we want to

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quarantine them I think one major reason

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for coming here is quarantine now maybe

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the reason you get DNA sample the

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equivalent thereof is that while these

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guys are gonna kill themselves anyway

982
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maybe we'll have some survivors from the

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DNA we can storm there may be some good

984
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traits here somewhere we're not sure

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where you understand well you know I

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want to you know Jack something here

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quickly Stanton sure we're talking about

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the the decline and in failing basically

989
00:45:05,839 --> 00:45:04,109
of our manned space program what do you

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say to people like Richard Dolan and

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Joseph

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we were kind of coming up with this idea

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that we may have some sort of breakaway

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civilization and in a secret space

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program that is forged ahead out out of

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public you know view but that we

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actually are going to the moon we are

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going to Mars and we do have sending

999
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people like Project serpo to some other

1000
00:45:32,220 --> 00:45:29,260
star system oh where do you come down on

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00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:32,230
that that particular theory I have yet

1002
00:45:36,240 --> 00:45:34,210
to see any solid evidence of any of that

1003
00:45:38,700 --> 00:45:36,250
I'm certainly not gonna say there are no

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secrets I work under security for 14

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00:45:45,110 --> 00:45:41,860
years yes we can't keep secrets and then

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one of my books I give a list of

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expensive secret programs well our first

1008
00:45:53,910 --> 00:45:50,650
spy satellite was the corona spy

1009
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satellite liked to cigar you know 1960

1010
00:45:58,710 --> 00:45:56,800
there were 12 failures in private not in

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public I mean nobody knew about him

1012
00:46:04,350 --> 00:46:01,750
anyway it got more information number 13

1013
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:04,360
then all the YouTube flights that

1014
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preceded it big probably cried no first

1015
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:10,870
announcement of the reality of the

1016
00:46:17,250 --> 00:46:14,370
corona spy satellite was 30 years later

1017
00:46:19,860 --> 00:46:17,260
billions of dollars went into that you

1018
00:46:23,790 --> 00:46:19,870
know what I mean it was expensive but it

1019
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:23,800
worked the NRO National Reconnaissance

1020
00:46:28,230 --> 00:46:26,290
Office had a program going with Boeing

1021
00:46:29,970 --> 00:46:28,240
to try to improve they're the ones who

1022
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:29,980
build the big expensive satisfy

1023
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:32,170
satellites you know the ones who read

1024
00:46:38,220 --> 00:46:34,330
the license plates at the Kremlin

1025
00:46:40,500 --> 00:46:38,230
parking lot kind of thing they had spent

1026
00:46:41,970 --> 00:46:40,510
13 billion dollars with Boeing try to

1027
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:41,980
improve the architecture of the

1028
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:45,130
satellites and program was cancelled

1029
00:46:48,900 --> 00:46:46,450
they didn't get what they want

1030
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:48,910
thirteen billion didn't get what they

1031
00:46:53,610 --> 00:46:52,090
want the stealth program 10 billion over

1032
00:46:56,250 --> 00:46:53,620
10 years and secret

1033
00:47:00,150 --> 00:46:56,260
think about what they wanted but these

1034
00:47:02,370 --> 00:47:00,160
are major programs and you know they're

1035
00:47:04,980 --> 00:47:02,380
like four areas where the the city

1036
00:47:06,630 --> 00:47:04,990
cultists don't seem to understand one is

1037
00:47:09,990 --> 00:47:06,640
they don't look at the evidence about

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00:47:12,180 --> 00:47:10,000
UFOs at all find any references and

1039
00:47:17,220 --> 00:47:12,190
studied literature to serious scientific

1040
00:47:18,540 --> 00:47:17,230
studies I never can find any but the

1041
00:47:20,340 --> 00:47:18,550
second thing is they don't know anything

1042
00:47:22,980 --> 00:47:20,350
about security

1043
00:47:25,110 --> 00:47:22,990
have no idea that you know there are

1044
00:47:28,590 --> 00:47:25,120
people working who aren't interested in

1045
00:47:30,900 --> 00:47:28,600
publish or perish who you know want to

1046
00:47:35,610 --> 00:47:30,910
get write technical reports that are

1047
00:47:37,620 --> 00:47:35,620
classified I know I wrote something they

1048
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:37,630
don't understand that another thing they

1049
00:47:44,340 --> 00:47:41,290
don't understand is advanced technology

1050
00:47:45,900 --> 00:47:44,350
for propulsion it's not just fusion

1051
00:47:50,510 --> 00:47:45,910
although that's a good place to go well

1052
00:47:55,860 --> 00:47:50,520
look Los Alamos built the Phoebus to be

1053
00:47:59,310 --> 00:47:55,870
nuclear rocket reactor propulsion system

1054
00:48:00,960 --> 00:47:59,320
efficient system tested in 1969 less

1055
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:00,970
than eight feet in diameter the tower

1056
00:48:07,500 --> 00:48:04,690
level was 44 hundred mega white watts

1057
00:48:09,810 --> 00:48:07,510
that's twice the power of Grand Coulee

1058
00:48:12,810 --> 00:48:09,820
Dam in something less than eight feet in

1059
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:12,820
diameter was operated successfully of

1060
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:16,450
course then the program was canceled par

1061
00:48:20,490 --> 00:48:18,010
for the course I worked at Westinghouse

1062
00:48:24,410 --> 00:48:20,500
ours only 1,100 megawatts it was very

1063
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:24,420
exciting successful program was canceled

1064
00:48:31,260 --> 00:48:28,090
so you know I it can get a little

1065
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:31,270
personally aggravating I move the family

1066
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all over the place

1067
00:48:38,370 --> 00:48:35,380
do you ever feel like the person who is

1068
00:48:40,890 --> 00:48:38,380
an actor and he's always starring in TV

1069
00:48:45,270 --> 00:48:40,900
pilots but the pilots have never picked

1070
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:45,280
up and turned into a series what yeah

1071
00:48:51,180 --> 00:48:47,530
there's certainly a feeling like that

1072
00:48:53,730 --> 00:48:51,190
like I say I enjoyed my jobs and it was

1073
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:53,740
nice when we had our big test of the

1074
00:48:59,220 --> 00:48:56,490
nuclear rocket it was really exciting

1075
00:49:01,530 --> 00:48:59,230
because if we had no idea was it really

1076
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:01,540
gonna work nobody had done something

1077
00:49:05,970 --> 00:49:03,010
quite like that before

1078
00:49:08,610 --> 00:49:05,980
and we listened real time as they

1079
00:49:10,500 --> 00:49:08,620
broadcast the results to the principle

1080
00:49:14,250 --> 00:49:10,510
testers out of the nuclear test site in

1081
00:49:16,770 --> 00:49:14,260
Nevada and you know the limit was 60

1082
00:49:18,540 --> 00:49:16,780
minutes because you needed to have

1083
00:49:20,340 --> 00:49:18,550
enough liquid hydrogen around to cool

1084
00:49:23,370 --> 00:49:20,350
the reactor after Dan operated for a

1085
00:49:27,750 --> 00:49:23,380
while and five minutes ten minutes

1086
00:49:30,300 --> 00:49:27,760
nominal temperature and pressure 15 20

1087
00:49:34,170 --> 00:49:30,310
minutes 30 minutes 40 minutes we went up

1088
00:49:36,180 --> 00:49:34,180
full sixty minutes and that was exciting

1089
00:49:41,279 --> 00:49:36,190
of course then the program got canceled

1090
00:49:44,970 --> 00:49:41,289
within a few months so you know it's

1091
00:49:48,180 --> 00:49:44,980
aggravating and I've read the serpo book

1092
00:49:50,999 --> 00:49:48,190
and I'm not impressed again not because

1093
00:49:54,420 --> 00:49:51,009
I don't think we can keep secrets but

1094
00:49:57,180 --> 00:49:54,430
I've seen no evidence to go with it in

1095
00:49:58,620 --> 00:49:57,190
this case let me bring up something else

1096
00:50:01,440 --> 00:49:58,630
we'll have to continue this through our

1097
00:50:04,019 --> 00:50:01,450
next segment now James carry on the

1098
00:50:07,529 --> 00:50:04,029
former international director of MUFON

1099
00:50:09,809 --> 00:50:07,539
yes has been fairly skeptical about UFOs

1100
00:50:11,460 --> 00:50:09,819
we had him on couple of weeks ago where

1101
00:50:15,180 --> 00:50:11,470
he was talking about a book called the

1102
00:50:17,279 --> 00:50:15,190
Rosetta deception yeah I've seen write

1103
00:50:19,319 --> 00:50:17,289
up some and I didn't see an easy way to

1104
00:50:22,099 --> 00:50:19,329
order it I was gonna buy a copy believe

1105
00:50:26,999 --> 00:50:22,109
it or not but I didn't because I didn't

1106
00:50:30,569 --> 00:50:27,009
seem to be on it is now it is now in

1107
00:50:32,069 --> 00:50:30,579
Amazon but that's not sure okay so one

1108
00:50:35,759 --> 00:50:32,079
of the things he talks about there is

1109
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:35,769
the ghost rockets in world war ii where

1110
00:50:41,549 --> 00:50:38,249
he says this was part of the deception

1111
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:41,559
say we have about 30 seconds left so now

1112
00:50:46,109 --> 00:50:44,410
your answer is I think he's full of

1113
00:50:48,660 --> 00:50:46,119
baloney about that the ghost Rockets

1114
00:50:52,049 --> 00:50:48,670
were real that's why we sent Jimmy

1115
00:50:55,049 --> 00:50:52,059
Doolittle over there to talk to the

1116
00:50:57,809 --> 00:50:55,059
Miller he's not arguing that the the

1117
00:51:00,390 --> 00:50:57,819
phenomenon was not real he's not saying

1118
00:51:02,579 --> 00:51:00,400
it wasn't real he's saying that was that

1119
00:51:04,470 --> 00:51:02,589
there was some deception and subterfuge

1120
00:51:07,859 --> 00:51:04,480
behind it and that it may have been a

1121
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:07,869
manufactured these events were

1122
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:09,970
manufactured as a de said well I'm

1123
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:11,890
anxious to read the book but I've read

1124
00:51:17,190 --> 00:51:14,650
others of the things that Kerrigan has

1125
00:51:20,759 --> 00:51:17,200
spoken about and I found he was full of

1126
00:51:23,519 --> 00:51:20,769
baloney to put it that way but yeah we

1127
00:51:24,839 --> 00:51:23,529
delicatessen guys gotta speak up okay we

1128
00:51:27,660 --> 00:51:24,849
have the delicatessen guy himself

1129
00:51:30,270 --> 00:51:27,670
Stanton Friedman with gene and Chris

1130
00:51:37,310 --> 00:51:30,280
you're in the mustard

1131
00:51:43,620 --> 00:51:41,099
great minds think alike the network for

1132
00:51:48,630 --> 00:51:43,630
the independent finding the genesis

1133
00:51:50,970 --> 00:51:48,640
communications network G C n next to

1134
00:51:53,010 --> 00:51:50,980
water and food you need a safe storable

1135
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:53,020
fuel supply for your preparedness needs

1136
00:51:57,450 --> 00:51:55,450
spare fuel is the answer

1137
00:51:59,880 --> 00:51:57,460
spare fuel can be used in any gas

1138
00:52:02,250 --> 00:51:59,890
powered vehicle or generator spare fuel

1139
00:52:05,370 --> 00:52:02,260
is perfect for any unforeseen out of gas

1140
00:52:06,900 --> 00:52:05,380
emergencies unlike gasoline spare fuel

1141
00:52:09,270 --> 00:52:06,910
is safe to store with your other

1142
00:52:12,660 --> 00:52:09,280
supplies and it can be stored for many

1143
00:52:15,420 --> 00:52:12,670
years go to get spare fuel calm for a

1144
00:52:19,260 --> 00:52:15,430
special pricing that's get spare fuel

1145
00:52:20,910 --> 00:52:19,270
calm hi this is 10 Anderson have you

1146
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:20,920
ever wondered why banks dockworkers

1147
00:52:24,410 --> 00:52:22,570
investment advisors won't talk about

1148
00:52:26,940 --> 00:52:24,420
gold IRAs they've been available since

1149
00:52:28,770 --> 00:52:26,950
1986 yet the financial industry won't

1150
00:52:30,660 --> 00:52:28,780
recognize the value of gold for your

1151
00:52:33,030 --> 00:52:30,670
retirement coal has outperformed paper

1152
00:52:34,589 --> 00:52:33,040
investments yet no word about IRAs if

1153
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:34,599
you would like to have gold for your

1154
00:52:40,109 --> 00:52:38,290
retirement call 866 to 237 don't get

1155
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:40,119
left behind by rising inflation and low

1156
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1157
00:53:33,089 --> 00:53:32,050
future and call 1-866-376-8255 a plus

1158
00:53:36,870 --> 00:53:33,099
and beyond

1159
00:53:39,180 --> 00:53:36,880
osteo FX i recommend you go online to

1160
00:53:42,030 --> 00:53:39,190
Infowars team.com

1161
00:53:44,430 --> 00:53:42,040
to purchase these products and make them

1162
00:53:46,290 --> 00:53:44,440
part of your daily regimen to get

1163
00:53:55,860 --> 00:53:46,300
healthy and live longer

1164
00:54:03,870 --> 00:53:59,560
welcome back to the para cast the gold

1165
00:54:12,940 --> 00:54:03,880
standard of paranormal radio and now

1166
00:54:14,770 --> 00:54:12,950
here's Jane Steinberg on the mustard I

1167
00:54:16,750 --> 00:54:14,780
mean the para cast with Gina and Chris

1168
00:54:20,860 --> 00:54:16,760
we have Stanton Friedman I'll take a

1169
00:54:24,460 --> 00:54:20,870
pastrami on club bread good okay with a

1170
00:54:27,550 --> 00:54:24,470
petition okay all right we'll get the

1171
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:27,560
mustard I won't pass B deli mustard not

1172
00:54:32,770 --> 00:54:30,530
French's mustard the regular Delma you

1173
00:54:35,260 --> 00:54:32,780
actually up there will you live in the

1174
00:54:38,770 --> 00:54:35,270
Atlantic timezone are there decent delis

1175
00:54:41,950 --> 00:54:38,780
kosher delis where you live well kosher

1176
00:54:44,650 --> 00:54:41,960
is reaching kind of far here Montreal's

1177
00:54:46,690 --> 00:54:44,660
got fine delis and kosher delis but

1178
00:54:49,330 --> 00:54:46,700
there are stores where you can buy meat

1179
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:49,340
that comes in from Montreal good stuff

1180
00:54:53,830 --> 00:54:51,050
believe it or not but you don't have a

1181
00:54:56,410 --> 00:54:53,840
Katz's Deli or something like that no

1182
00:54:58,960 --> 00:54:56,420
actor a meat market which comes close

1183
00:55:00,910 --> 00:54:58,970
but everybody I'm should invite

1184
00:55:02,890 --> 00:55:00,920
everybody to come to Fredericton it's

1185
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:02,900
the capital of the picture province of

1186
00:55:07,230 --> 00:55:04,850
New Brunswick home of the University of

1187
00:55:09,940 --> 00:55:07,240
New Brunswick the oldest

1188
00:55:12,550 --> 00:55:09,950
english-language University in Canada

1189
00:55:17,020 --> 00:55:12,560
it's on the beautiful st. John River and

1190
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:17,030
boy was a winner rough one last really

1191
00:55:22,390 --> 00:55:20,330
we had a special event here I come home

1192
00:55:23,110 --> 00:55:22,400
from the hospital after being in there

1193
00:55:25,900 --> 00:55:23,120
for a week

1194
00:55:29,980 --> 00:55:25,910
ready to go and a little tropical storm

1195
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:29,990
called Arthur came charging on by and

1196
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:32,210
knocked down would you believe in

1197
00:55:39,310 --> 00:55:35,810
Fredericton alone four thousand trees no

1198
00:55:41,950 --> 00:55:39,320
we had no power no phones and no

1199
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:41,960
internet for a week that wasn't fun

1200
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:44,210
fortunately the weather wasn't horrible

1201
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:45,290
you know we didn't have really high

1202
00:55:49,060 --> 00:55:47,450
temperatures or cold temperatures or

1203
00:55:51,090 --> 00:55:49,070
anything like that but hard to get

1204
00:55:53,140 --> 00:55:51,100
anything done when you don't have power

1205
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:53,150
internet withdrawal did you start

1206
00:55:58,720 --> 00:55:55,850
shaking and wringing your hands and no

1207
00:56:01,960 --> 00:55:58,730
hope in a manner no no I didn't do that

1208
00:56:05,110 --> 00:56:01,970
but it was strange I've been here 34

1209
00:56:06,670 --> 00:56:05,120
years it's the by far the worst outage

1210
00:56:08,020 --> 00:56:06,680
we've had well you know you've mentioned

1211
00:56:11,260 --> 00:56:08,030
the NRO

1212
00:56:13,780 --> 00:56:11,270
several times already in in the opening

1213
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:13,790
stages of our show with you and you know

1214
00:56:19,830 --> 00:56:16,850
I've always wondered why the NRO isn't

1215
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:19,840
really singled out by ufology as

1216
00:56:24,660 --> 00:56:22,490
potentially having the most impressive

1217
00:56:27,100 --> 00:56:24,670
smoking-gun evidence of

1218
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:27,110
extraterrestrials visiting and leaving

1219
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:29,810
this planet I would think that they are

1220
00:56:34,810 --> 00:56:32,450
monitoring every square inch of space

1221
00:56:37,390 --> 00:56:34,820
around this planet and that if anything

1222
00:56:39,460 --> 00:56:37,400
is coming from out there to here they

1223
00:56:41,500 --> 00:56:39,470
would know about it for instance I know

1224
00:56:44,350 --> 00:56:41,510
they do but that doesn't mean they're

1225
00:56:46,660 --> 00:56:44,360
talking about it well the John Alexander

1226
00:56:49,650 --> 00:56:46,670
for instance in his book UFO never

1227
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:49,660
mentions the NRO once how do we go about

1228
00:56:56,590 --> 00:56:53,210
ascertaining the capabilities of the NRO

1229
00:56:58,540 --> 00:56:56,600
pointing outwards Ron Regehr who helped

1230
00:57:00,820 --> 00:56:58,550
design many of the optics system Jaguar

1231
00:57:04,300 --> 00:57:00,830
spy satellites told me that he thinks

1232
00:57:06,550 --> 00:57:04,310
every satellite system that it was put

1233
00:57:08,290 --> 00:57:06,560
operational from the 90s forward is

1234
00:57:10,630 --> 00:57:08,300
tasked with looking outwards as well

1235
00:57:12,370 --> 00:57:10,640
that wouldn't surprise me at all and

1236
00:57:15,010 --> 00:57:12,380
trying to break through security is

1237
00:57:17,590 --> 00:57:15,020
that's part of the problem people don't

1238
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:17,600
understand how difficult it is I mean I

1239
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:19,730
can get a good laugh from an audience

1240
00:57:28,870 --> 00:57:22,330
when I show them the first few pages of

1241
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:28,880
156 top-secret Umbra NSA UFO documents

1242
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:31,250
on which you can read one sentence per

1243
00:57:36,940 --> 00:57:34,850
page everything else is whited out not

1244
00:57:39,220 --> 00:57:36,950
blacked out white it out now the CIA

1245
00:57:41,740 --> 00:57:39,230
they black out and the reason for the

1246
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:41,750
whiteout is because of me and Phil class

1247
00:57:47,050 --> 00:57:44,810
believe it or not I heard the NSA was

1248
00:57:49,890 --> 00:57:47,060
putting out more information that and

1249
00:57:53,050 --> 00:57:49,900
I'd been showing there 20-some page

1250
00:57:55,210 --> 00:57:53,060
top-secret justification to a federal

1251
00:57:57,340 --> 00:57:55,220
court judge for withholding the data

1252
00:57:59,110 --> 00:57:57,350
when I called them I'd heard that they

1253
00:58:02,590 --> 00:57:59,120
were releasing new information I said

1254
00:58:04,390 --> 00:58:02,600
yes yes because of executive one or one

1255
00:58:05,950 --> 00:58:04,400
two nine five eight that Clinton sign

1256
00:58:06,910 --> 00:58:05,960
made it tougher to keep hold stuff

1257
00:58:09,490 --> 00:58:06,920
classified

1258
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:09,500
can I get us set oh sure what's your

1259
00:58:13,030 --> 00:58:10,850
name I told them my name oh we know

1260
00:58:16,330 --> 00:58:13,040
about you and I wondered what the heck

1261
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:16,340
does that mean how come well the class

1262
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:17,810
had said that I show the blacked-out

1263
00:58:21,910 --> 00:58:20,810
versioned and don't tell people that

1264
00:58:24,850 --> 00:58:21,920
it's

1265
00:58:27,010 --> 00:58:24,860
because sources and methods information

1266
00:58:29,710 --> 00:58:27,020
was being released well I do as a matter

1267
00:58:32,830 --> 00:58:29,720
of fact but so I got the whited out

1268
00:58:37,060 --> 00:58:32,840
version and they did that because of me

1269
00:58:39,670 --> 00:58:37,070
should I be proud I don't think so but

1270
00:58:42,910 --> 00:58:39,680
nobody's really done that came out of

1271
00:58:45,250 --> 00:58:42,920
the lawsuit of cause citizens against

1272
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:45,260
UFOs seriously takes money to file

1273
00:58:50,830 --> 00:58:48,530
lawsuits as you know again you get to

1274
00:58:53,350 --> 00:58:50,840
the setting characters and let me give

1275
00:58:56,860 --> 00:58:53,360
you two examples of their thinking two

1276
00:58:59,170 --> 00:58:56,870
scientist dr. Tyson the astronomer who's

1277
00:59:02,910 --> 00:58:59,180
doing the cosmos series you know ahead

1278
00:59:06,340 --> 00:59:02,920
of Hayden Planetarium he said in a talk

1279
00:59:08,140 --> 00:59:06,350
at Penn State University that the proof

1280
00:59:09,580 --> 00:59:08,150
of the government can't keep secrets is

1281
00:59:12,010 --> 00:59:09,590
how much we know about President

1282
00:59:14,740 --> 00:59:12,020
Clinton's genitalia think about that for

1283
00:59:17,260 --> 00:59:14,750
a minute we got to do with the NRO the

1284
00:59:19,270 --> 00:59:17,270
NSA the CIA the DIA you know any of

1285
00:59:22,660 --> 00:59:19,280
these nice nothing but it sounds good

1286
00:59:26,980 --> 00:59:22,670
and then Seth Shostak said the proof was

1287
00:59:29,740 --> 00:59:26,990
that the lousy job that FEMA did on

1288
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:29,750
Katrina you know emergency measures and

1289
00:59:34,420 --> 00:59:32,090
stuff and how poorly the post office is

1290
00:59:38,590 --> 00:59:34,430
run what's that got to do with CIA dia

1291
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:38,600
and ro NSA nothing but it sounds good

1292
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:41,210
some of these guys can't believe that a

1293
00:59:45,790 --> 00:59:43,490
scientist could do work that isn't

1294
00:59:48,130 --> 00:59:45,800
published in the open scientific

1295
00:59:49,060 --> 00:59:48,140
literature I to different guys told me

1296
00:59:52,150 --> 00:59:49,070
honest to god

1297
00:59:53,950 --> 00:59:52,160
Stan if Roswell really happened as I

1298
00:59:55,690 --> 00:59:53,960
certainly maintain that it did and was

1299
00:59:57,850 --> 00:59:55,700
regression retrieval of an alien

1300
00:59:59,260 --> 00:59:57,860
spacecraft if that it really happened

1301
01:00:01,270 --> 00:59:59,270
they would have had to pull half the

1302
01:00:03,700 --> 01:00:01,280
prisoners out of the colleges in the

1303
01:00:05,830 --> 01:00:03,710
country I just laughed my head off you

1304
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:05,840
gotta be kidding are you really unaware

1305
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:08,930
of the National Labs and Industry

1306
01:00:14,410 --> 01:00:11,570
I mean Los Alamos had thousands of

1307
01:00:18,070 --> 01:00:14,420
people working there and they're so

1308
01:00:20,860 --> 01:00:18,080
naive let me give you an example I I had

1309
01:00:22,270 --> 01:00:20,870
a brief stint with McDonnell Douglas

1310
01:00:24,700 --> 01:00:22,280
they were being nice to me I was

1311
01:00:26,950 --> 01:00:24,710
supposed to take a greatest job ever

1312
01:00:28,750 --> 01:00:26,960
figure out how flying saucers work and

1313
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:28,760
I'm as I was driving across the country

1314
01:00:35,530 --> 01:00:31,730
to take up my new job they canceled the

1315
01:00:37,930 --> 01:00:35,540
darn program the thing

1316
01:00:39,220 --> 01:00:37,940
program and so I got there and they kept

1317
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:39,230
me for three months and one of the

1318
01:00:45,670 --> 01:00:41,930
things I did was a literature search of

1319
01:00:47,710 --> 01:00:45,680
the technical report literature not the

1320
01:00:50,890 --> 01:00:47,720
open scientific literature which is much

1321
01:00:55,270 --> 01:00:50,900
much larger and the one word that I used

1322
01:00:59,580 --> 01:00:55,280
the keyword magneto Aero dynamics that

1323
01:01:03,520 --> 01:00:59,590
is only one word I got 900 references

1324
01:01:05,500 --> 01:01:03,530
90% weren't classified so there were

1325
01:01:07,450 --> 01:01:05,510
awful lot of people working on that what

1326
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:07,460
they were doing I don't know but what

1327
01:01:14,230 --> 01:01:09,610
they were doing was classified

1328
01:01:17,140 --> 01:01:14,240
yeah well that debt does support Dolan

1329
01:01:19,590 --> 01:01:17,150
and Joseph Farrell's assertion that we

1330
01:01:23,170 --> 01:01:19,600
have made leaps and strides

1331
01:01:26,260 --> 01:01:23,180
technologically in that particular area

1332
01:01:27,970 --> 01:01:26,270
of science and that that obviously would

1333
01:01:29,820 --> 01:01:27,980
have implications for our capabilities

1334
01:01:33,070 --> 01:01:29,830
have actually taken off and leaving this

1335
01:01:34,210 --> 01:01:33,080
solar system so maybe maybe some of

1336
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:34,220
these programs instead of being

1337
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:36,530
cancelled that's kind of a ruse and that

1338
01:01:41,350 --> 01:01:38,530
their their reap icked up under deep

1339
01:01:44,170 --> 01:01:41,360
classification and cover and in the work

1340
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:44,180
and forges ahead for decades stand

1341
01:01:48,340 --> 01:01:45,650
before you answer let me just throw it

1342
01:01:50,350 --> 01:01:48,350
my logical argument concerning that and

1343
01:01:52,780 --> 01:01:50,360
that is here wouldn't it look better

1344
01:01:56,790 --> 01:01:52,790
though at least in some respects that

1345
01:01:59,650 --> 01:01:56,800
some of those programs be made public so

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01:02:02,110 --> 01:01:59,660
our confidence in the space program is

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01:02:05,230 --> 01:02:02,120
restored you can still keep parts of it

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a secret as appropriate but why keep

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01:02:09,370 --> 01:02:07,340
most of it a secret Stan what do you

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01:02:11,980 --> 01:02:09,380
think well I think because they don't

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01:02:13,750 --> 01:02:11,990
have any courage you know what can I say

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01:02:15,580 --> 01:02:13,760
of course the first thought that

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01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:15,590
occurred to me when somebody asked me

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why didn't we launched Apollo 18 because

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the aliens told us not to stay the heck

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off our planet the moon that's as good

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an answer as any you know the excuse was

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that from Richard Nixon was that was too

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expensive it's kind of a recession at

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that time while you're paying the Navy

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guys whether they're looking for

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astronauts that come down out of the

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skies or just for submarines that are

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circling around and the two rocket the

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01:02:49,060 --> 01:02:47,240
18 and 19 were built no the money was

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spent so I don't have a

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01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:50,630
good excuse for that but I don't sit in

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that the high levels of government and I

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know how easy it is to keep secrets not

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health

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and the thing about John you mentioned

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him before John Alexander I asked Don a

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question which for which I never got an

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answer

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01:03:09,850 --> 01:03:07,700
how often John did you tell people who

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didn't have an appropriate clearance and

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need to know classified information but

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the answer was not he was asking people

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all over the place and they said no we

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don't know anything if they didn't know

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anything why would you expect them to

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say anything to somebody who doesn't

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have an appropriate need to know that's

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I mean I've had people tell me I get

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into the mj-12 stuff well surely those

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guys would have told their wives before

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have a comment or question about the

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para cast sent it to News at the para

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caste calm that's news at the para cast

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calm and don't forget to visit our

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famous para cast community forums at

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forum dot the para cast calm you know I

1486
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:53,589
can't imagine how many TV shows I see

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01:07:58,049 --> 01:07:56,170
involving spies where the husband and

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01:08:00,719 --> 01:07:58,059
the wife do not talk to each other

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01:08:03,329 --> 01:08:00,729
because they can't by covert affairs on

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01:08:05,759 --> 01:08:03,339
USA Network there was a discussion

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01:08:08,370 --> 01:08:05,769
between this husband and wife team both

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01:08:11,249 --> 01:08:08,380
of whom worked at the CIA and both of

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01:08:13,829 --> 01:08:11,259
whom would not share what they were

1494
01:08:16,379 --> 01:08:13,839
doing because they couldn't so Stan did

1495
01:08:18,660 --> 01:08:16,389
I hit sir your question well yeah you've

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01:08:20,430 --> 01:08:18,670
got it right the need-to-know concept is

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very important you can't control what

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your wife says and where she says that

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01:08:28,289 --> 01:08:25,060
when she says it I never told my wife

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01:08:31,349 --> 01:08:28,299
anything classified be a stupid thing

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01:08:32,609 --> 01:08:31,359
for me to do you know who knows what

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01:08:34,589 --> 01:08:32,619
she's gonna you know loose lips sink

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01:08:37,050 --> 01:08:34,599
ships I'm old enough to remember that

1504
01:08:38,370 --> 01:08:37,060
and it's true something that people

1505
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:38,380
don't understand well why are they

1506
01:08:42,269 --> 01:08:40,810
keeping secrets from us because you

1507
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:42,279
can't tell your friends without telling

1508
01:08:46,289 --> 01:08:44,290
your enemies they read the newspapers

1509
01:08:48,959 --> 01:08:46,299
too they listened to you guys on the

1510
01:08:51,419 --> 01:08:48,969
radio I hate to tell you that that maybe

1511
01:08:56,820 --> 01:08:51,429
somebody who listens to you might be an

1512
01:08:58,680 --> 01:08:56,830
enemy of the United States mine we

1513
01:09:03,240 --> 01:08:58,690
always have this theory that somebody in

1514
01:09:09,329 --> 01:09:03,250
our forums is really the CIA plant well

1515
01:09:11,910 --> 01:09:09,339
why not reason boy no you know you want

1516
01:09:13,410 --> 01:09:11,920
to know what's going on but when you say

1517
01:09:16,980 --> 01:09:13,420
not out of the realm of reason some of

1518
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:16,990
the junk I read recently about

1519
01:09:26,220 --> 01:09:21,610
majestic 12 and you know the bill Moore

1520
01:09:29,010 --> 01:09:26,230
and Jamie Chandra and Rick Doty and all

1521
01:09:30,810 --> 01:09:29,020
this kind of stuff people mixing in

1522
01:09:32,550 --> 01:09:30,820
things that are inappropriate to mix

1523
01:09:35,490 --> 01:09:32,560
where there are all kinds of shenanigans

1524
01:09:37,650 --> 01:09:35,500
sure what's that got to do with to do

1525
01:09:41,580 --> 01:09:37,660
with the the three primary mj-12

1526
01:09:44,850 --> 01:09:41,590
documents the question isn't are all

1527
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:44,860
mj-12 documents legitimate the question

1528
01:09:50,430 --> 01:09:47,530
is are any it's kind of like are all

1529
01:09:52,740 --> 01:09:50,440
isotopes fissionable no of course not

1530
01:09:55,230 --> 01:09:52,750
but fortunately there are a couple that

1531
01:09:58,860 --> 01:09:55,240
are those are the ones we use the fact

1532
01:10:00,960 --> 01:09:58,870
that 99% aren't is beside the point

1533
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:00,970
you know wouldn't wouldn't you be

1534
01:10:06,570 --> 01:10:04,570
astonished if some real documents were

1535
01:10:11,670 --> 01:10:06,580
released if the government didn't turn

1536
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:11,680
out loads of foamies disinformation is a

1537
01:10:19,590 --> 01:10:14,410
well-known government activity dates

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01:10:22,740 --> 01:10:19,600
back a long time many examples during

1539
01:10:24,810 --> 01:10:22,750
world war ii i and they were very

1540
01:10:26,370 --> 01:10:24,820
important we know a lot of people don't

1541
01:10:29,850 --> 01:10:26,380
realize how close we came to losing the

1542
01:10:32,670 --> 01:10:29,860
war thank good for goodness for enigma

1543
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:32,680
and purple and all these things it's not

1544
01:10:36,270 --> 01:10:34,330
nice to know where your enemy are

1545
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:36,280
sending his bombers and you only got a

1546
01:10:41,070 --> 01:10:39,250
limited number of fighters i thinks

1547
01:10:43,500 --> 01:10:41,080
you're well protected because you put

1548
01:10:45,180 --> 01:10:43,510
all the right guys in the right place as

1549
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:45,190
you knew where the enemy was heading

1550
01:10:49,610 --> 01:10:47,530
that's very important even though it

1551
01:10:53,970 --> 01:10:49,620
doesn't give me another bullet

1552
01:10:55,710 --> 01:10:53,980
disinformation Hitler believed that the

1553
01:10:58,680 --> 01:10:55,720
invasion was of Europe was going to take

1554
01:11:00,450 --> 01:10:58,690
place near Calais not Normandy the

1555
01:11:03,570 --> 01:11:00,460
generals want to bring in the reserves

1556
01:11:06,990 --> 01:11:03,580
oh no no no they're really coming down

1557
01:11:09,570 --> 01:11:07,000
here here not over there the time he

1558
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:09,580
released them it was too late so

1559
01:11:15,030 --> 01:11:12,370
disinformation I know it doesn't sound

1560
01:11:18,150 --> 01:11:15,040
like the thing a gentleman would do but

1561
01:11:20,010 --> 01:11:18,160
the Brits were doing loads of well

1562
01:11:22,740 --> 01:11:20,020
frankly though whether you agree with it

1563
01:11:24,980 --> 01:11:22,750
or not and clearly you don't the book by

1564
01:11:28,740 --> 01:11:24,990
James carry on was all about

1565
01:11:30,570 --> 01:11:28,750
disinformation well I haven't read it I

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01:11:30,810 --> 01:11:30,580
was and I will order it now that you

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01:11:32,970 --> 01:11:30,820
tell

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01:11:37,710 --> 01:11:32,980
it is on Amazon when I looked the first

1569
01:11:39,180 --> 01:11:37,720
time I couldn't find it but yeah just

1570
01:11:41,340 --> 01:11:39,190
the the fact that there is

1571
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:41,350
disinformation and there has been loads

1572
01:11:47,130 --> 01:11:44,290
of it doesn't mean it's all baloney the

1573
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:47,140
stuff about Roswell or the stuff about

1574
01:11:54,450 --> 01:11:50,410
aliens and he and I have tangled a

1575
01:11:56,190 --> 01:11:54,460
couple of times at meetings and he even

1576
01:11:59,070 --> 01:11:56,200
ignored some of the data his own people

1577
01:12:01,110 --> 01:11:59,080
had but anyway I'll write a column I

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01:12:04,650 --> 01:12:01,120
write a monthly column for the new fun

1579
01:12:07,170 --> 01:12:04,660
journal them I and I as soon as I get

1580
01:12:10,700 --> 01:12:07,180
the book I will read it and write a

1581
01:12:12,990 --> 01:12:10,710
column and judging on the past unless

1582
01:12:17,700 --> 01:12:13,000
James Karen has changed a great deal

1583
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:17,710
which I doubt I think will find that the

1584
01:12:24,590 --> 01:12:20,890
book itself is disinformation how's that

1585
01:12:26,910 --> 01:12:24,600
for a prediction Wow

1586
01:12:29,340 --> 01:12:26,920
well he's going to be asked about it

1587
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:29,350
James is participating in our forums

1588
01:12:34,140 --> 01:12:32,290
that formed out the podcast calm so no

1589
01:12:37,170 --> 01:12:34,150
doubt our listeners will ask him to

1590
01:12:38,790 --> 01:12:37,180
respond okay I haven't really gone into

1591
01:12:40,590 --> 01:12:38,800
any detail yet cuz I haven't read the

1592
01:12:43,140 --> 01:12:40,600
book and I don't care to until I read a

1593
01:12:46,110 --> 01:12:43,150
little unfair legal bypass injury now

1594
01:12:48,660 --> 01:12:46,120
sure now in announcing your appearance

1595
01:12:50,850 --> 01:12:48,670
Stan our listeners asked loads and loads

1596
01:12:52,890 --> 01:12:50,860
of questions and we're gonna go back and

1597
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:52,900
forth here now chris is going to work

1598
01:12:57,240 --> 01:12:54,730
through a few of them I think we've

1599
01:13:00,000 --> 01:12:57,250
covered some of it but maybe Chris you

1600
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:00,010
can start with some others yeah in this

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01:13:05,790 --> 01:13:03,130
one comes from pigs in then interesting

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01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:05,800
avatar name and he says glad you're

1603
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:08,890
recovering Stan first of all he has two

1604
01:13:14,220 --> 01:13:11,650
questions who are the UFO researchers

1605
01:13:16,790 --> 01:13:14,230
you admire the most and has the data

1606
01:13:20,030 --> 01:13:16,800
you've collected pointed toward the ETH

1607
01:13:21,930 --> 01:13:20,040
exclusively or do you also entertain the

1608
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:21,940
interdimensional theories touted by many

1609
01:13:32,670 --> 01:13:28,930
researchers today well okay if you

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accept ETH part of that as far as I'm

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01:13:37,110 --> 01:13:35,560
concerned includes a lot of capabilities

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01:13:39,330 --> 01:13:37,120
that we might have thought of as

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01:13:40,980 --> 01:13:39,340
paranormal wouldn't it be astonishing of

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01:13:44,669 --> 01:13:40,990
an advanced civilization didn't know

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01:13:47,129 --> 01:13:44,679
more about telepathy about

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01:13:49,370 --> 01:13:47,139
I don't how the heck do they go through

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01:13:52,500 --> 01:13:49,380
windows without breaking the windows

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01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:52,510
being able to you know transport stuff

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01:13:57,570 --> 01:13:55,690
strangely it would be astonishing if in

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a truly advanced civilization didn't

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have all kinds of capabilities that we

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don't have we're not a truly advanced

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civilization so that's the first thing

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01:14:07,070 --> 01:14:05,949
what was the first question that's the

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second thing

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who do you admire in the field in terms

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01:14:15,990 --> 01:14:14,199
of yes it is researchers well I at the

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01:14:18,780 --> 01:14:16,000
risk of padding

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01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:18,790
my own books on the back Kathleen Mardon

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01:14:23,959 --> 01:14:21,090
has done an outstanding job on

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01:14:26,459 --> 01:14:23,969
abductions betty hills nice and she did

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01:14:30,149 --> 01:14:26,469
85% of the work on captured the Betty

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and Barney Hill UFO experience she has

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01:14:37,740 --> 01:14:34,050
really gathered in a lot of data on

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abductions people from you funds under

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all kinds of stuff and you know she is

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rational sensible and she did have to

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01:14:50,669 --> 01:14:46,840
work on science was wrong as a matter of

1639
01:14:54,330 --> 01:14:50,679
fact and dr. Bruce Maccabee is certainly

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somebody that I admire greatly another

1641
01:15:00,209 --> 01:14:57,400
physicist of course like Dave Marley

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01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:00,219
rose done a book on triangular UFOs

1643
01:15:07,250 --> 01:15:04,449
really sharp guy very good yes there are

1644
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a lot of good guys out there

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01:15:13,500 --> 01:15:11,619
and Bruce is certainly one that I when

1646
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people want to show me a UFO picture I

1647
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:15,280
say show it to Bruce he's looked at

1648
01:15:20,129 --> 01:15:17,530
loads of these things and he's an

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optical physicist I'm a dumb old nuclear

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guy we don't look at pictures ok got

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some more here if you're interested sure

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dr. Friedman this comes from Ron and

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please and and and I think he got the

1654
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doctor part wrong but I'm reading it go

1655
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quoting him I've noticed a growing sense

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of anger and venom coming from

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paranormal deniers and debunkers to the

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point where they resort to insults and

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threats of violence which that's new to

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me the violence part and he wonders if

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this is a new phenomenon or is he just

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noticing this for the first time

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before we have that answer let's do a

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break and then stand it's plenty of time

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to respond

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we have Stanton Friedman returning on

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back-up plan comm I'm sure you know this

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economy sucks we all realize that the

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American economy is tremendously

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unstable right now and will likely get

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much worse

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there's monumental debt government

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bailouts stock and real estate bubbles

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that are primed to pop at any moment

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which can flush away most or all of your

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retirement savings this type of movement

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has enormous consequences virtually zero

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sectors of the economy are hiring and

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workforce participation is at record

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lows financial trouble is right here at

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our doorstep but if you move right now

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and develop a back-up plan immediately

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millionaires were created during the

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Great Depression than at any time in our

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history get my free report at baby

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boomer back-up plan com or call eight

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and prepared a profit as history repeats

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hi the to make Pope you're listening to

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the parrot

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actually I'll take corned beef lean on

1772
01:21:05,430 --> 01:21:02,969
rye with mustard no cold the coleslaw

1773
01:21:08,729 --> 01:21:05,440
Stanton Friedman joins us with gene and

1774
01:21:11,689 --> 01:21:08,739
Chris stand before we dinner break Chris

1775
01:21:16,410 --> 01:21:11,699
asked a question would you respond now

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01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:16,420
which one well he's asking that he's

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01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:18,250
seen a lot of anger and venom coming

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01:21:22,500 --> 01:21:20,770
from the door yes lunker's and he even

1779
01:21:26,580 --> 01:21:22,510
mentioned threats of violence now that's

1780
01:21:30,270 --> 01:21:26,590
that's a new one to me I haven't had any

1781
01:21:34,590 --> 01:21:30,280
threats of violence I've seen plenty of

1782
01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:34,600
anger the and what I have seen a lot of

1783
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:39,250
us irrationality misrepresentation the

1784
01:21:46,379 --> 01:21:41,650
nasty noisy negative is as I call them

1785
01:21:49,109 --> 01:21:46,389
are are certainly out there and like I

1786
01:21:51,870 --> 01:21:49,119
say it's coming more as much from the

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01:21:53,370 --> 01:21:51,880
seti community as anybody else I mean

1788
01:21:55,379 --> 01:21:53,380
let's face it they got everything to

1789
01:21:58,439 --> 01:21:55,389
lose if aliens are visiting if Roswell

1790
01:22:00,180 --> 01:21:58,449
is real for example who needs SETI learn

1791
01:22:03,660 --> 01:22:00,190
sign language why are you listening for

1792
01:22:06,209 --> 01:22:03,670
signals you less he archaic radio

1793
01:22:10,580 --> 01:22:06,219
signals well yes

1794
01:22:13,950 --> 01:22:10,590
or even laser signals we are a young

1795
01:22:16,020 --> 01:22:13,960
civilization and if the key thing that

1796
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:16,030
people don't realize about technology is

1797
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:19,810
it changes it improves you know Moore's

1798
01:22:25,500 --> 01:22:23,050
law was it the transistor capability

1799
01:22:27,990 --> 01:22:25,510
double every year or two year and a half

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01:22:32,100 --> 01:22:28,000
something like that that's a lot of

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01:22:33,030 --> 01:22:32,110
doubling plenty of time for it and like

1802
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:33,040
it or not

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01:22:39,060 --> 01:22:36,610
thanks change well and I don't use a

1804
01:22:41,340 --> 01:22:39,070
slide rule anymore believe it or not I

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01:22:43,260 --> 01:22:41,350
had a shock I mentioned that I was going

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01:22:45,990 --> 01:22:43,270
over how much things would change in my

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01:22:47,070 --> 01:22:46,000
lifetime and a bunch of students up at

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01:22:50,580 --> 01:22:47,080
University of Detriot

1809
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:50,590
I said you know I I used to cycle when I

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01:22:53,070 --> 01:22:52,210
started working industry and I looked

1811
01:22:55,850 --> 01:22:53,080
around the room

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01:22:59,100 --> 01:22:55,860
keep your strategy I had what's that

1813
01:23:00,720 --> 01:22:59,110
well I asked I finally had guts enough

1814
01:23:04,790 --> 01:23:00,730
that anybody know what a slide rule is

1815
01:23:06,440 --> 01:23:04,800
not one boy that makes me feel old oh

1816
01:23:09,030 --> 01:23:06,450
that's funny

1817
01:23:12,780 --> 01:23:09,040
well well you know the atom bomb wasn't

1818
01:23:14,310 --> 01:23:12,790
designed with high speed computer no it

1819
01:23:14,970 --> 01:23:14,320
wasn't it took a lot of a lot of heavy

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01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:14,980
lifting

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01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:18,730
well yeah Eric who calls himself fedora

1822
01:23:23,460 --> 01:23:21,010
Chronicles and has a graphic design

1823
01:23:27,780 --> 01:23:23,470
company called that he's wondering how

1824
01:23:30,410 --> 01:23:27,790
can we disarm these real you know

1825
01:23:32,850 --> 01:23:30,420
vehement debunkers and and deniers

1826
01:23:35,250 --> 01:23:32,860
besides using logic like you do and you

1827
01:23:36,540 --> 01:23:35,260
do a very good job of that how does the

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01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:36,550
average person let's say in a

1829
01:23:40,830 --> 01:23:38,890
conversation with a with someone that's

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01:23:43,860 --> 01:23:40,840
misinformed or ill informed about these

1831
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:43,870
subjects how does he disarm their their

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01:23:48,390 --> 01:23:45,730
lack of understanding in their their

1833
01:23:51,060 --> 01:23:48,400
vehemence well I suppose you could say

1834
01:23:53,190 --> 01:23:51,070
look nuclear physicist Stanton Friedman

1835
01:23:57,420 --> 01:23:53,200
talks about five large-scale scientific

1836
01:24:00,000 --> 01:23:57,430
studies have you read any of them I and

1837
01:24:02,820 --> 01:24:00,010
you know I asked my audiences when I go

1838
01:24:07,020 --> 01:24:02,830
over these and typically fewer than 2%

1839
01:24:11,430 --> 01:24:07,030
of read any I've done debates on coast

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01:24:14,070 --> 01:24:11,440
to coast and one Oxford University

1841
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:14,080
debating society I get sick my team got

1842
01:24:22,230 --> 01:24:16,930
60% of the vote but on coast to coast I

1843
01:24:25,830 --> 01:24:22,240
debated test act I got 57% they took a

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01:24:28,620 --> 01:24:25,840
survey afterward he got 33 percent and

1845
01:24:31,710 --> 01:24:28,630
10 percent said I don't know I was on

1846
01:24:35,790 --> 01:24:31,720
with Michael Shermer I head of the

1847
01:24:42,530 --> 01:24:35,800
skeptic Society all right he got 20%

1848
01:24:49,650 --> 01:24:46,170
example I said you did a debate here at

1849
01:24:54,090 --> 01:24:49,660
the para cast as well well you know John

1850
01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:54,100
I kind of like John and I it was a

1851
01:25:00,240 --> 01:24:57,010
strange experience at in Phoenix right

1852
01:25:03,930 --> 01:25:00,250
two minutes before debate time but he's

1853
01:25:06,210 --> 01:25:03,940
supposed to go on with the Steve

1854
01:25:06,930 --> 01:25:06,220
ambassador if I remember yes it was

1855
01:25:09,810 --> 01:25:06,940
Stephen bass

1856
01:25:13,250 --> 01:25:09,820
and they come and say Stan we need you

1857
01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:13,260
what for what to debate John why do you

1858
01:25:19,950 --> 01:25:15,810
say sure bring him on

1859
01:25:21,690 --> 01:25:19,960
well I had read his book fortunately you

1860
01:25:24,750 --> 01:25:21,700
know and John and I had talked before

1861
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:24,760
the debate and mr. Shaheen did most of

1862
01:25:33,930 --> 01:25:28,210
the talking to me yeah yeah a little

1863
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:33,940
action on Danny's part yeah but so you

1864
01:25:40,950 --> 01:25:36,850
know the thing you can do is to try to

1865
01:25:43,020 --> 01:25:40,960
get them to the debunkers to reveal

1866
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:43,030
their ignorance which is usually very

1867
01:25:48,030 --> 01:25:46,930
easy now in four major areas they

1868
01:25:51,300 --> 01:25:48,040
haven't looked at the large-scale

1869
01:25:53,990 --> 01:25:51,310
scientific studies they're unaware of

1870
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:54,000
the data on advanced propulsion systems

1871
01:26:02,010 --> 01:25:57,010
they have no idea how easy it is for

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01:26:04,160 --> 01:26:02,020
governments to keep secrets and so those

1873
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:04,170
are areas that they're really weak on

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01:26:11,670 --> 01:26:08,770
and you know don't don't ever expect to

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01:26:14,220 --> 01:26:11,680
convince every any debunk any particular

1876
01:26:16,860 --> 01:26:14,230
D bunker because there are four basic

1877
01:26:19,500 --> 01:26:16,870
rules for debunk them don't bother me

1878
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:19,510
with the facts my mind's made up what

1879
01:26:23,430 --> 01:26:21,130
the public doesn't know I'm not going to

1880
01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:23,440
tell them deny deny deny

1881
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:26,170
yeah if you can't attack the data attack

1882
01:26:30,390 --> 01:26:27,850
the people it's easier and do your

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01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:30,400
research by Proclamation investigations

1884
01:26:35,190 --> 01:26:32,530
too much trouble well I hate is that

1885
01:26:38,490 --> 01:26:35,200
deep bunker answered no it's not that's

1886
01:26:41,550 --> 01:26:38,500
not true no it's not how do you know no

1887
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:41,560
it's not that's not true yeah but that's

1888
01:26:47,430 --> 01:26:43,810
you know I was in high school debating

1889
01:26:50,340 --> 01:26:47,440
and people ask me about giving lectures

1890
01:26:53,490 --> 01:26:50,350
I say well a couple of basic rules never

1891
01:26:57,360 --> 01:26:53,500
lie and do your homework cat facts in

1892
01:27:01,140 --> 01:26:57,370
hand before putting mouth in gear it's a

1893
01:27:03,060 --> 01:27:01,150
good rule two of them yeah if you don't

1894
01:27:07,470 --> 01:27:03,070
have a command to the facts you're gonna

1895
01:27:09,570 --> 01:27:07,480
sink fast yeah yeah and it's I was

1896
01:27:13,110 --> 01:27:09,580
surprised I'll tell you frankly I gave

1897
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:13,120
my first lecture in 1967 and I was

1898
01:27:20,850 --> 01:27:16,570
concerned that something's gonna come

1899
01:27:26,060 --> 01:27:20,860
along is gonna blast my my case

1900
01:27:29,670 --> 01:27:26,070
to smithereens and it didn't happen uh

1901
01:27:31,500 --> 01:27:29,680
you know I was pleased I found that my

1902
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:31,510
memory worked I'm getting old it's not

1903
01:27:37,860 --> 01:27:34,690
as good as it used to be but uh good

1904
01:27:40,130 --> 01:27:37,870
enough so that I could count on my

1905
01:27:43,500 --> 01:27:40,140
answers being truthful and accurate

1906
01:27:44,910 --> 01:27:43,510
right when you're on the stage after a

1907
01:27:47,610 --> 01:27:44,920
lecture you can't say I'll give you a

1908
01:27:49,860 --> 01:27:47,620
good answer to that tomorrow no doesn't

1909
01:27:52,260 --> 01:27:49,870
work kind of an answer now you know I

1910
01:27:54,690 --> 01:27:52,270
don't mind saying I don't know if I

1911
01:27:56,910 --> 01:27:54,700
don't know I'll say it what else can you

1912
01:27:59,790 --> 01:27:56,920
do well I've got another question here

1913
01:28:00,840 --> 01:27:59,800
from a longtime poster at forum dr.

1914
01:28:04,020 --> 01:28:00,850
Peric ask.com

1915
01:28:06,660 --> 01:28:04,030
nicholas he wants to know

1916
01:28:09,450 --> 01:28:06,670
Stanton is there a UFO case that you

1917
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:09,460
have never discussed publicly and if so

1918
01:28:14,480 --> 01:28:10,890
could you break it here on the podcast

1919
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:14,490
so UFO case that I've never discovered

1920
01:28:18,870 --> 01:28:17,290
publicly not that I have intentionally

1921
01:28:22,530 --> 01:28:18,880
withheld if that's what he's really

1922
01:28:24,810 --> 01:28:22,540
asking right no not that I can think of

1923
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:24,820
anyway I hear a lot of cases you

1924
01:28:28,140 --> 01:28:26,770
understand so in one lecture I'm

1925
01:28:30,180 --> 01:28:28,150
certainly not going to talk about all

1926
01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:30,190
the cases I've heard about yeah yeah

1927
01:28:35,340 --> 01:28:33,610
we'd be there for weeks yes here's a

1928
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:35,350
question from Blowfish do you think the

1929
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government and private corporations knew

1930
01:28:41,670 --> 01:28:40,150
about so-called ET and dimensional or

1931
01:28:49,170 --> 01:28:41,680
dimensional encounters prior to world

1932
01:28:49,950 --> 01:28:49,180
war ii I would say offhand no and I you

1933
01:28:51,870 --> 01:28:49,960
know when people talk about

1934
01:28:55,170 --> 01:28:51,880
interdimensional I don't know what the

1935
01:28:58,140 --> 01:28:55,180
heck that means it's a convenient

1936
01:29:00,930 --> 01:28:58,150
science friction label you know it's

1937
01:29:07,710 --> 01:29:00,940
like using the term wormhole well how

1938
01:29:10,740 --> 01:29:07,720
does it work energy well yeah oh it's

1939
01:29:12,330 --> 01:29:10,750
the energy yeah and but most people

1940
01:29:14,790 --> 01:29:12,340
don't know anything at all about the

1941
01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:14,800
energy and aren't aware that we have

1942
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:18,250
joined the select group of planets if

1943
01:29:25,820 --> 01:29:20,770
you will let know that fusion is the way

1944
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:25,830
to go right well when they crack that

1945
01:29:30,270 --> 01:29:28,810
that particular conundrum that egg and

1946
01:29:33,510 --> 01:29:30,280
we get cold fusion that's going to be

1947
01:29:34,649 --> 01:29:33,520
quite something yes there's a chapter in

1948
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:34,659
science was

1949
01:29:38,700 --> 01:29:36,610
about ColdFusion and I went they were

1950
01:29:39,950 --> 01:29:38,710
onto something yeah that's going to

1951
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:39,960
change everything

1952
01:29:44,550 --> 01:29:42,250
unfortunately the oil companies still

1953
01:29:46,350 --> 01:29:44,560
have so much political and economic

1954
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:46,360
clout that they're going to pick our

1955
01:29:53,100 --> 01:29:51,010
pockets until this whole I think how

1956
01:29:56,760 --> 01:29:53,110
would I put it this whole inaccurate

1957
01:29:59,340 --> 01:29:56,770
idea of peak oil that whole thing is

1958
01:30:00,899 --> 01:29:59,350
blown wide open and you know but in the

1959
01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:00,909
meantime we're gonna be seeing gas

1960
01:30:04,830 --> 01:30:02,650
prices go up and up and up and up and up

1961
01:30:07,379 --> 01:30:04,840
and our pockets will be rated very

1962
01:30:12,140 --> 01:30:07,389
effectively until we come up with the

1963
01:30:16,379 --> 01:30:12,150
the compulsion to to provide new energy

1964
01:30:18,060 --> 01:30:16,389
scenarios for or big growing planet I'm

1965
01:30:19,860 --> 01:30:18,070
gonna get off my soapbox now and ask

1966
01:30:21,810 --> 01:30:19,870
another question but before you know

1967
01:30:23,310 --> 01:30:21,820
that you have to do our break okay

1968
01:30:25,740 --> 01:30:23,320
then you can ask the questions and maybe

1969
01:30:27,330 --> 01:30:25,750
I'll have a few left well Dan Friedman

1970
01:30:29,570 --> 01:30:27,340
is here with Jean and Chris you're in

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01:30:36,620 --> 01:30:29,580
Liberec Adam

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not just an alternative to the

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mainstream media we're the premier

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independent talk radio network

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we are G C n first game attack of the

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Rockets and it was a critically

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acclaimed success and now there is the

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coming of the protectors a former

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military intelligence man is contacted

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by a space woman in a dream a dream that

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turns out to be a nightmare

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because evil forces on our distant

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planet are planning to conquer the earth

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this is gripping science fiction of the

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classic kind attack of the rock hides

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you're listening to the podcast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio Stan

2078
01:35:09,930 --> 01:35:07,450
Friedman's here with Jean and Chris in

2079
01:35:12,060 --> 01:35:09,940
the para cast Stan let me throw out one

2080
01:35:14,820 --> 01:35:12,070
more question and then Chris got a whole

2081
01:35:18,090 --> 01:35:14,830
lot more and that is we've been talking

2082
01:35:21,150 --> 01:35:18,100
about the same stuff for year after year

2083
01:35:24,150 --> 01:35:21,160
you and I for decades maybe you four

2084
01:35:27,050 --> 01:35:24,160
more decades than I did whatever but do

2085
01:35:30,330 --> 01:35:27,060
you think we have progressed any in

2086
01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:30,340
understanding anything about UFOs and in

2087
01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:32,730
persuading people to take it seriously

2088
01:35:39,180 --> 01:35:35,770
well on the latter yes I think we have I

2089
01:35:41,340 --> 01:35:39,190
think what what's changed is our

2090
01:35:43,950 --> 01:35:41,350
arrogance has been knocked down a few

2091
01:35:46,560 --> 01:35:43,960
slips all right not too many years ago

2092
01:35:48,510 --> 01:35:46,570
we thought there's one solar system we

2093
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got the only planet that's got life on

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it and boy we're at the top of the heap

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folks anything we don't know isn't worth

2096
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knowing you know now we suddenly

2097
01:36:01,140 --> 01:35:58,510
realized it wasn't just Copernicus who

2098
01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:01,150
put up a new view of things but think of

2099
01:36:05,670 --> 01:36:03,970
Kepler suddenly everybody is saying oh

2100
01:36:07,320 --> 01:36:05,680
we surely we can't be the only ones

2101
01:36:09,350 --> 01:36:07,330
because that old Kepler's finding

2102
01:36:12,060 --> 01:36:09,360
planets all over the place out there

2103
01:36:14,550 --> 01:36:12,070
lots and lots and lots I mean Frank

2104
01:36:16,650 --> 01:36:14,560
Drake not too many years ago said you

2105
01:36:19,590 --> 01:36:16,660
thought there might be as many as 8,000

2106
01:36:22,590 --> 01:36:19,600
places that could be sending signals and

2107
01:36:25,950 --> 01:36:22,600
now with Kepler it's probably in our own

2108
01:36:29,790 --> 01:36:25,960
galaxy the Milky Way alone about eight

2109
01:36:33,080 --> 01:36:29,800
billion so what we're at a turning point

2110
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:33,090
in our understanding that we're not it

2111
01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:36,010
we don't have all the answers we're not

2112
01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:38,890
the most advanced civilization so I

2113
01:36:43,500 --> 01:36:41,290
think that that's one big thing that's

2114
01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:43,510
changed not everybody tells me well

2115
01:36:48,180 --> 01:36:46,090
surely we're not the only ones for most

2116
01:36:51,360 --> 01:36:48,190
people I mean that doesn't satisfy the

2117
01:36:53,340 --> 01:36:51,370
SETI guys but because they want there to

2118
01:36:57,810 --> 01:36:53,350
be other life out there just as long as

2119
01:37:01,590 --> 01:36:57,820
they don't come here and so III think

2120
01:37:02,630 --> 01:37:01,600
times have changed and I was getting a

2121
01:37:07,910 --> 01:37:02,640
great response and

2122
01:37:10,100 --> 01:37:07,920
1867 so I think that our arrogance

2123
01:37:12,500 --> 01:37:10,110
I mean Pat Robertson had a lot of

2124
01:37:14,120 --> 01:37:12,510
followers remember he thought that all

2125
01:37:15,980 --> 01:37:14,130
the intelligent life in the universe is

2126
01:37:19,010 --> 01:37:15,990
here on planet earth and this UFO stuff

2127
01:37:22,850 --> 01:37:19,020
is the work of the devil right and he

2128
01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:22,860
created stone yeah 4004 BC that's when

2129
01:37:26,990 --> 01:37:23,730
it all began

2130
01:37:28,940 --> 01:37:27,000
yep and I think he left six zeros out of

2131
01:37:32,870 --> 01:37:28,950
there someplace along the way

2132
01:37:34,430 --> 01:37:32,880
so there has been a change I keep trying

2133
01:37:35,090 --> 01:37:34,440
to tell people as long as I keep your

2134
01:37:38,600 --> 01:37:35,100
facts straight

2135
01:37:39,770 --> 01:37:38,610
don't worry about it I'll go anywhere to

2136
01:37:43,130 --> 01:37:39,780
talk to anybody

2137
01:37:44,060 --> 01:37:43,140
yeah I'm just worried about bring it on

2138
01:37:47,690 --> 01:37:44,070
bonkers

2139
01:37:50,480 --> 01:37:47,700
yeah bring it on well here's one for you

2140
01:37:52,610 --> 01:37:50,490
Stephen Hawking last year made us a

2141
01:37:54,080 --> 01:37:52,620
pretty interesting statement stain you

2142
01:37:56,270 --> 01:37:54,090
know all this talk about discovering

2143
01:37:59,120 --> 01:37:56,280
other life on other planets we should be

2144
01:38:01,370 --> 01:37:59,130
careful because chances are anything out

2145
01:38:03,020 --> 01:38:01,380
there that's roaming around is not going

2146
01:38:05,750 --> 01:38:03,030
to have our best interest at heart and

2147
01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:05,760
maybe looking to exploit our you know

2148
01:38:10,460 --> 01:38:08,010
wonderful biodiversity or natural

2149
01:38:12,290 --> 01:38:10,470
resources which include of course water

2150
01:38:14,420 --> 01:38:12,300
which is going to be very important I'm

2151
01:38:17,270 --> 01:38:14,430
sure what do you think about that about

2152
01:38:20,120 --> 01:38:17,280
maybe we are I like it was pretty silly

2153
01:38:22,610 --> 01:38:20,130
from Stephen because it assumes that

2154
01:38:24,680 --> 01:38:22,620
nobody has been here as soon as you

2155
01:38:26,440 --> 01:38:24,690
realize that there got to be archives

2156
01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:26,450
all over the place in the neighborhood

2157
01:38:32,090 --> 01:38:29,010
you know there's there those stupid

2158
01:38:35,120 --> 01:38:32,100
Earthlings having fuss and making a fuss

2159
01:38:36,890 --> 01:38:35,130
out there in other words yeah remember

2160
01:38:39,230 --> 01:38:36,900
he said we shouldn't let anybody know

2161
01:38:41,780 --> 01:38:39,240
we're here because like gee whiz that

2162
01:38:46,010 --> 01:38:41,790
little late for that attention it's a

2163
01:38:48,740 --> 01:38:46,020
little late very late for that I agree

2164
01:38:51,020 --> 01:38:48,750
with you and yes well remember every

2165
01:38:54,290 --> 01:38:51,030
advanced civilization is going to be

2166
01:38:57,500 --> 01:38:54,300
concerned about what happens if a

2167
01:39:00,500 --> 01:38:57,510
supernova happens in the neighborhood or

2168
01:39:02,930 --> 01:39:00,510
an asteroid slams into it well we run

2169
01:39:06,310 --> 01:39:02,940
out of resources they've always got to

2170
01:39:08,870 --> 01:39:06,320
be looking for another home so to speak

2171
01:39:10,550 --> 01:39:08,880
anybody thinks that everybody's stuck

2172
01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:10,560
out there well this is it I mean this is

2173
01:39:14,660 --> 01:39:12,810
a city of viewpoint wherever a

2174
01:39:16,129 --> 01:39:14,670
civilization is that's where it is

2175
01:39:18,890 --> 01:39:16,139
forever and ever

2176
01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:18,900
and it ain't going nowhere folks it's

2177
01:39:25,640 --> 01:39:20,850
gonna send signals hoping somebody will

2178
01:39:28,070 --> 01:39:25,650
respond utterly ridiculous right but you

2179
01:39:30,649 --> 01:39:28,080
know I don't see slam dunk evidence that

2180
01:39:33,709 --> 01:39:30,659
we've been visited by anything out there

2181
01:39:35,680 --> 01:39:33,719
personally I don't see the type of

2182
01:39:38,810 --> 01:39:35,690
evidence that you would expect to see

2183
01:39:41,870 --> 01:39:38,820
one of these groups that are supposedly

2184
01:39:45,229 --> 01:39:41,880
visiting here at some point you would

2185
01:39:48,260 --> 01:39:45,239
think besides Roswell or you know maybe

2186
01:39:51,350 --> 01:39:48,270
other crashes which are I doubt would

2187
01:39:52,609 --> 01:39:51,360
mess up and and and something would go

2188
01:39:54,649 --> 01:39:52,619
wrong and they would somehow

2189
01:39:56,810 --> 01:39:54,659
inadvertently expose their presence here

2190
01:39:59,689 --> 01:39:56,820
why do you think aliens are still

2191
01:40:02,120 --> 01:39:59,699
gathering flowers and looking at rocks

2192
01:40:03,320 --> 01:40:02,130
like they've never seen them before when

2193
01:40:04,820 --> 01:40:03,330
they could have something in space the

2194
01:40:06,439 --> 01:40:04,830
size of a beer keg that could pretty

2195
01:40:07,820 --> 01:40:06,449
much get any sort of information they

2196
01:40:10,850 --> 01:40:07,830
could want about our planet

2197
01:40:12,950 --> 01:40:10,860
why are they still wandering around you

2198
01:40:15,290 --> 01:40:12,960
know like like they never graduate

2199
01:40:18,979 --> 01:40:15,300
students doing their thesis research on

2200
01:40:21,140 --> 01:40:18,989
a primitive Society they're broadcasters

2201
01:40:24,410 --> 01:40:21,150
with a weekly show idiocy in the

2202
01:40:25,879 --> 01:40:24,420
boondocks so you think we're important

2203
01:40:30,620 --> 01:40:25,889
enough for anybody out there to come

2204
01:40:33,189 --> 01:40:30,630
here well might anybody's some anybody's

2205
01:40:36,200 --> 01:40:33,199
the the galactic protection Federation

2206
01:40:40,879 --> 01:40:36,210
organization keep track on the idiots in

2207
01:40:43,310 --> 01:40:40,889
the neighborhood yet keep them in check

2208
01:40:44,840 --> 01:40:43,320
quarantine their asses well yeah I think

2209
01:40:48,140 --> 01:40:44,850
quarantine would be one of the reasons

2210
01:40:52,280 --> 01:40:48,150
for coming here you're familiar with Bob

2211
01:40:55,850 --> 01:40:52,290
Salas the of course those guys with the

2212
01:40:58,760 --> 01:40:55,860
Rockets that's certainly that network

2213
01:41:01,930 --> 01:40:58,770
that they're doing would indicate that

2214
01:41:05,390 --> 01:41:01,940
aliens were very concerned about nuclear

2215
01:41:06,080 --> 01:41:05,400
missiles and it happened in Russia too

2216
01:41:10,479 --> 01:41:06,090
remember

2217
01:41:12,859 --> 01:41:10,489
way high so somebody's paying attention

2218
01:41:15,080 --> 01:41:12,869
so much the idiots play their games

2219
01:41:18,709 --> 01:41:15,090
would you know with all that that

2220
01:41:21,290 --> 01:41:18,719
garbage here's one a question from

2221
01:41:23,840 --> 01:41:21,300
flatwoods who's been a longtime poster

2222
01:41:25,700 --> 01:41:23,850
here at forum dr. Peric ask.com

2223
01:41:27,350 --> 01:41:25,710
he doesn't post very often but when

2224
01:41:29,660 --> 01:41:27,360
someone like then Friedman comes on you

2225
01:41:30,770 --> 01:41:29,670
bet he's going to have a question so

2226
01:41:33,530 --> 01:41:30,780
you want to know if there's any

2227
01:41:36,470 --> 01:41:33,540
connection between Barney Barnett story

2228
01:41:38,840 --> 01:41:36,480
and the supposed Roswell Kodachrome

2229
01:41:41,810 --> 01:41:38,850
slide what do you know about these

2230
01:41:45,590 --> 01:41:41,820
slides discovered by a housecleaner in

2231
01:41:47,870 --> 01:41:45,600
them and I think was a Sedona attic or

2232
01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:47,880
something I don't know enough to have an

2233
01:41:51,500 --> 01:41:49,890
opinion I've heard the stories and I

2234
01:41:53,360 --> 01:41:51,510
haven't been able to get to the bottom

2235
01:41:55,370 --> 01:41:53,370
of them whether they're legitimate or

2236
01:41:58,240 --> 01:41:55,380
not I mean let's face it I would

2237
01:42:00,560 --> 01:41:58,250
certainly believe that there are

2238
01:42:03,979 --> 01:42:00,570
incriminating evidence if you will

2239
01:42:06,709 --> 01:42:03,989
either did or in yon and occasionally

2240
01:42:09,709 --> 01:42:06,719
some of it gets out inadvertently or not

2241
01:42:13,280 --> 01:42:09,719
look I once got a classified document

2242
01:42:16,189 --> 01:42:13,290
sent to me in the mail at my home and I

2243
01:42:17,990 --> 01:42:16,199
immediately the next day took it in the

2244
01:42:21,140 --> 01:42:18,000
work and was worried if what cop stops

2245
01:42:24,919 --> 01:42:21,150
me I'm really in trouble you know things

2246
01:42:28,130 --> 01:42:24,929
happen mistakes get made I saw how it

2247
01:42:30,410 --> 01:42:28,140
happened but I turned it in and was glad

2248
01:42:33,800 --> 01:42:30,420
I didn't get caught with that out in the

2249
01:42:35,770 --> 01:42:33,810
open all right so what I'm saying is it

2250
01:42:38,900 --> 01:42:35,780
wouldn't surprise me if there were

2251
01:42:41,689 --> 01:42:38,910
incriminating things Heather did early

2252
01:42:44,660 --> 01:42:41,699
on that I've heard a couple of

2253
01:42:50,270 --> 01:42:44,670
interesting stories about people having

2254
01:42:52,700 --> 01:42:50,280
seen documents and what can I say there

2255
01:42:55,459 --> 01:42:52,710
is such a mess of misinformation out

2256
01:42:57,560 --> 01:42:55,469
there and then it's look when was the

2257
01:43:00,620 --> 01:42:57,570
last time you saw a serious newspaper

2258
01:43:04,160 --> 01:43:00,630
article done by a Woodward Bernstein

2259
01:43:06,979 --> 01:43:04,170
type pretty hard to find and when it

2260
01:43:11,330 --> 01:43:06,989
comes to UFOs look at the New York Times

2261
01:43:13,729 --> 01:43:11,340
plate up the crazy story that it was

2262
01:43:15,979 --> 01:43:13,739
crash test dummies that explained the

2263
01:43:19,189 --> 01:43:15,989
Roswell incident they hadn't even been

2264
01:43:21,439 --> 01:43:19,199
out yet well what six years between

2265
01:43:26,500 --> 01:43:21,449
friends evidence of time travel of

2266
01:43:29,689 --> 01:43:26,510
course but you know I was able to find

2267
01:43:31,970 --> 01:43:29,699
the guy who's pictured in the government

2268
01:43:35,360 --> 01:43:31,980
report who was head of the program

2269
01:43:36,560 --> 01:43:35,370
Colonel Madsen he's dead now but I was

2270
01:43:39,680 --> 01:43:36,570
able to locate him

2271
01:43:42,709 --> 01:43:39,690
wasn't hard to find I met with him he

2272
01:43:43,550 --> 01:43:42,719
stressed to me that the crash test

2273
01:43:45,890 --> 01:43:43,560
dummies had to be

2274
01:43:49,640 --> 01:43:45,900
same size and weight as pilots and if we

2275
01:43:52,760 --> 01:43:49,650
look at the pictures 175 pounds 6 feet

2276
01:43:54,680 --> 01:43:52,770
tall and incidentally when the funny

2277
01:43:56,690 --> 01:43:54,690
part of that story is they were made out

2278
01:43:58,670 --> 01:43:56,700
of wood those crash-test dummies

2279
01:44:00,850 --> 01:43:58,680
and sometimes the limbs came off when

2280
01:44:02,720 --> 01:44:00,860
they hit the ground that's surprisingly

2281
01:44:04,850 --> 01:44:02,730
and they were in flight gear

2282
01:44:06,920 --> 01:44:04,860
incidentally because that affects the

2283
01:44:09,650 --> 01:44:06,930
drag and the eating of the bodies and so

2284
01:44:12,230 --> 01:44:09,660
forth the pseudo bodies the New York

2285
01:44:14,270 --> 01:44:12,240
Times didn't bother to check and I am

2286
01:44:16,880 --> 01:44:14,280
reminded that within two weeks at the

2287
01:44:19,400 --> 01:44:16,890
beginning of World War two United States

2288
01:44:24,260 --> 01:44:19,410
said oh I'll set up an office of

2289
01:44:28,670 --> 01:44:24,270
censorship yeah I wonder whether it ever

2290
01:44:31,430 --> 01:44:28,680
got dissolved well we know in word they

2291
01:44:34,330 --> 01:44:31,440
couldn't use uranium was a word that

2292
01:44:37,010 --> 01:44:34,340
couldn't you know there were others

2293
01:44:40,880 --> 01:44:37,020
Steve ambassadors bears coined the term

2294
01:44:43,100 --> 01:44:40,890
truth embargo which I don't think it's

2295
01:44:45,080 --> 01:44:43,110
as accurate a term as he would like to

2296
01:44:46,610 --> 01:44:45,090
think it is but no but there has been a

2297
01:44:50,420 --> 01:44:46,620
concerted effort I think over the years

2298
01:44:52,610 --> 01:44:50,430
to downplay the serious side of UFOs and

2299
01:44:54,620 --> 01:44:52,620
and then the paranormal I think in

2300
01:44:56,930 --> 01:44:54,630
general and it's been an effective way

2301
01:45:00,050 --> 01:44:56,940
to kind of keep that giggle factor

2302
01:45:02,930 --> 01:45:00,060
ratcheted up and and you know I still

2303
01:45:05,300 --> 01:45:02,940
see local news be of people you know

2304
01:45:08,240 --> 01:45:05,310
whistling the twilight zone theme and or

2305
01:45:10,250 --> 01:45:08,250
the the you know the x-files team and

2306
01:45:12,020 --> 01:45:10,260
make little green men jokes when they

2307
01:45:13,850 --> 01:45:12,030
when they report on local sightings that

2308
01:45:16,400 --> 01:45:13,860
spill something you see although not as

2309
01:45:19,660 --> 01:45:16,410
much with gene and Chris we have Stanton

2310
01:45:26,729 --> 01:45:19,670
Friedman you're in the para Cass

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house they said if we didn't pay it

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2319
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2320
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2321
01:45:55,770 --> 01:45:53,590
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2322
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wheat fabric engraving can bed strips

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and fibers to protect from counterfeit

2330
01:46:13,830 --> 01:46:12,789
than carding to a private bank having a

2331
01:46:15,629 --> 01:46:13,840
led back at interest

2332
01:46:17,489 --> 01:46:15,639
forcing taxes to service debt this

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capitalism or was Jefferson correct when

2334
01:46:20,580 --> 01:46:18,969
stating a central bank issuing the

2335
01:46:21,720 --> 01:46:20,590
public currency is a greater menace to

2336
01:46:23,459 --> 01:46:21,730
the liberties of the people than a

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placing a free silver dollar in a book

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that explains our monetary system call

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[Applause]

2367
01:47:52,280 --> 01:47:47,940
welcome back to the para cast the gold

2368
01:48:00,960 --> 01:47:52,290
standard of paranormal radio and now

2369
01:48:02,850 --> 01:48:00,970
here's Jane Steinberg with gene and

2370
01:48:05,280 --> 01:48:02,860
Chris in the para cast we have Stanton

2371
01:48:07,590 --> 01:48:05,290
Friedman joining us Chris you were about

2372
01:48:11,610 --> 01:48:07,600
to ask a question have you seen a

2373
01:48:14,010 --> 01:48:11,620
gradual progression of acceptance within

2374
01:48:17,100 --> 01:48:14,020
the media or is it just been staying the

2375
01:48:20,370 --> 01:48:17,110
same with the giggle factor being being

2376
01:48:23,760 --> 01:48:20,380
touted and used well there's still a

2377
01:48:25,860 --> 01:48:23,770
problem but I not personally my paper

2378
01:48:27,810 --> 01:48:25,870
for a MUFON which I was unable to

2379
01:48:30,240 --> 01:48:27,820
present but it's in the Proceedings of

2380
01:48:32,970 --> 01:48:30,250
the conference it had to do with press

2381
01:48:36,000 --> 01:48:32,980
coverage and exercise and laziness and

2382
01:48:38,490 --> 01:48:36,010
deceptions something like that and I

2383
01:48:41,550 --> 01:48:38,500
kind of missed I put together a whole

2384
01:48:42,720 --> 01:48:41,560
new PowerPoint presentation and I'll

2385
01:48:46,200 --> 01:48:42,730
have to give it at one of my upcoming

2386
01:48:49,650 --> 01:48:46,210
lectures because I hate to waste it you

2387
01:48:52,560 --> 01:48:49,660
know but well I had to say in there

2388
01:48:56,340 --> 01:48:52,570
among other things was that I have not

2389
01:48:58,590 --> 01:48:56,350
personally had a bad press surprisingly

2390
01:49:02,160 --> 01:48:58,600
good as a matter of fact I spoke to a

2391
01:49:04,560 --> 01:49:02,170
meeting of newspaper editors in Canada I

2392
01:49:07,170 --> 01:49:04,570
got asked if I would make a presentation

2393
01:49:08,940 --> 01:49:07,180
than I did and the guy who asked me told

2394
01:49:10,770 --> 01:49:08,950
me later he said I've never seen so many

2395
01:49:12,780 --> 01:49:10,780
newsmen changed their mind so quickly

2396
01:49:15,330 --> 01:49:12,790
they suddenly became aware they didn't

2397
01:49:17,790 --> 01:49:15,340
know anything about the subject and so

2398
01:49:20,670 --> 01:49:17,800
it's not a I'm not on a personal

2399
01:49:22,440 --> 01:49:20,680
vendetta against the press they're not

2400
01:49:24,900 --> 01:49:22,450
doing their job but then neither is the

2401
01:49:28,020 --> 01:49:24,910
scientific community right

2402
01:49:29,460 --> 01:49:28,030
you know that's what bothers me most is

2403
01:49:31,860 --> 01:49:29,470
I'm a member of the American Physical

2404
01:49:32,880 --> 01:49:31,870
Society in the American nuclear society

2405
01:49:36,060 --> 01:49:32,890
and the American Institute of

2406
01:49:39,080 --> 01:49:36,070
Aeronautics and Astronautics and I see

2407
01:49:43,560 --> 01:49:39,090
an awful lot of garbage being put out

2408
01:49:46,020 --> 01:49:43,570
which discretionary human that's oh I

2409
01:49:47,910 --> 01:49:46,030
like that term discretionary ignorance

2410
01:49:49,950 --> 01:49:47,920
yeah I like it

2411
01:49:53,400 --> 01:49:49,960
good you don't mind if I use it

2412
01:49:56,130 --> 01:49:53,410
sometimes yeah trade market and you can

2413
01:49:57,300 --> 01:49:56,140
be on the trademark with me okay yeah

2414
01:49:59,760 --> 01:49:57,310
but it's true I mean

2415
01:50:02,820 --> 01:49:59,770
scientific community I think many of the

2416
01:50:04,820 --> 01:50:02,830
major media outlets I think the more

2417
01:50:09,540 --> 01:50:04,830
regional and local you get the less you

2418
01:50:12,090 --> 01:50:09,550
see real obvious attempts at ridicule

2419
01:50:15,090 --> 01:50:12,100
and the feigning of ignorance but but I

2420
01:50:18,480 --> 01:50:15,100
think I think there is in place a

2421
01:50:20,790 --> 01:50:18,490
unspoken possibly or an unwritten code

2422
01:50:22,830 --> 01:50:20,800
among the major broadcasters number one

2423
01:50:25,200 --> 01:50:22,840
too rarely recover these stories only if

2424
01:50:26,670 --> 01:50:25,210
they have to and number two you know to

2425
01:50:29,490 --> 01:50:26,680
kind of always have that little bit of

2426
01:50:31,200 --> 01:50:29,500
wiggle room of the giggle factor that's

2427
01:50:34,020 --> 01:50:31,210
unfortunate yeah that's still out there

2428
01:50:36,450 --> 01:50:34,030
but as I'm saying I don't travel with

2429
01:50:38,310 --> 01:50:36,460
the cringing in fear of what's going to

2430
01:50:39,210 --> 01:50:38,320
be said because I don't think there's

2431
01:50:41,580 --> 01:50:39,220
anything to worry about

2432
01:50:43,800 --> 01:50:41,590
I'd say maybe fifty years in the field

2433
01:50:46,860 --> 01:50:43,810
is giving you bit of a thick skin and

2434
01:50:50,160 --> 01:50:46,870
some pretty good comeback I've seen you

2435
01:50:53,310 --> 01:50:50,170
zing a few time with dude well I can be

2436
01:50:55,130 --> 01:50:53,320
a zinger yeah yeah well that's good we

2437
01:50:58,230 --> 01:50:55,140
need we need more zingers in this field

2438
01:51:01,770 --> 01:50:58,240
people with you know confidence and

2439
01:51:03,630 --> 01:51:01,780
backbones that can stand up to the those

2440
01:51:06,960 --> 01:51:03,640
emerging fill classes out there of

2441
01:51:08,760 --> 01:51:06,970
course somebody some of your uh your

2442
01:51:11,310 --> 01:51:08,770
run-ins with with class are almost

2443
01:51:13,140 --> 01:51:11,320
legendary now but I hate to ask this

2444
01:51:15,200 --> 01:51:13,150
next question Stanton but I think it's a

2445
01:51:18,150 --> 01:51:15,210
good one and I'm going to anyway Owlman

2446
01:51:20,160 --> 01:51:18,160
is one of our longtime posters at

2447
01:51:22,410 --> 01:51:20,170
perform dr. Carrick asked calm and he

2448
01:51:24,120 --> 01:51:22,420
goes Stanton you're pretty much on the

2449
01:51:26,370 --> 01:51:24,130
road eleven months of the year with your

2450
01:51:29,040 --> 01:51:26,380
lectures can you recommend a decent

2451
01:51:30,270 --> 01:51:29,050
hotel chain and do you have an iPad he

2452
01:51:32,010 --> 01:51:30,280
says I'd be bored out of my mind

2453
01:51:36,960 --> 01:51:32,020
traveling that much how do you do it

2454
01:51:38,460 --> 01:51:36,970
then cook carefully with aplomb I know

2455
01:51:42,810 --> 01:51:38,470
I'm not on the road eleven months

2456
01:51:46,680 --> 01:51:42,820
probably not more than ten I go wherever

2457
01:51:50,280 --> 01:51:46,690
is convenient I'm not fancy I'm very

2458
01:51:52,170 --> 01:51:50,290
lucky I have two important things I have

2459
01:51:54,960 --> 01:51:52,180
a cast-iron stomach and a cast-iron

2460
01:51:56,760 --> 01:51:54,970
throat and you need boats if you're

2461
01:51:59,550 --> 01:51:56,770
gonna be out there my longest trip was

2462
01:52:03,480 --> 01:51:59,560
only twenty five lectures in 35 days and

2463
01:52:07,170 --> 01:52:03,490
15 states Wow began the wild Iraq I was

2464
01:52:11,580 --> 01:52:07,180
younger yeah well yeah and I wouldn't do

2465
01:52:17,230 --> 01:52:14,140
well you just like that energetic guys

2466
01:52:19,060 --> 01:52:17,240
are bunny I'll tell you yeah you just

2467
01:52:20,740 --> 01:52:19,070
you're just out there pounding away and

2468
01:52:23,620 --> 01:52:20,750
and I love it here's another question

2469
01:52:26,440 --> 01:52:23,630
from from poster at forum dr. Peric

2470
01:52:30,040 --> 01:52:26,450
ascom he's one of our most active

2471
01:52:32,320 --> 01:52:30,050
posters dying son he's sorry to stand on

2472
01:52:34,600 --> 01:52:32,330
all the four members to detract here but

2473
01:52:36,820 --> 01:52:34,610
what if anything is up with gary

2474
01:52:38,380 --> 01:52:36,830
mckinnon haven't heard anything in a

2475
01:52:39,610 --> 01:52:38,390
while and it's interesting because i

2476
01:52:41,560 --> 01:52:39,620
think there was just a story yesterday

2477
01:52:44,530 --> 01:52:41,570
about him starting some new company

2478
01:52:46,930 --> 01:52:44,540
where is the the gary mckinnon saga at

2479
01:52:51,640 --> 01:52:46,940
at this point according to what you know

2480
01:52:54,610 --> 01:52:51,650
i i don't know i and you know it's

2481
01:52:59,860 --> 01:52:54,620
interesting that the bricks didn't ship

2482
01:53:03,220 --> 01:52:59,870
them over who knows what's going on i

2483
01:53:05,620 --> 01:53:03,230
think there's a new story of the week

2484
01:53:07,930 --> 01:53:05,630
every week what's going to get coverage

2485
01:53:11,130 --> 01:53:07,940
this week and then next week it's kind

2486
01:53:13,930 --> 01:53:11,140
of coverage then and something different

2487
01:53:15,370 --> 01:53:13,940
and i can't remember what it was there

2488
01:53:16,780 --> 01:53:15,380
was some other story this week that I

2489
01:53:21,850 --> 01:53:16,790
was wondering Jim haven't heard anything

2490
01:53:26,380 --> 01:53:21,860
about XYZ story and it got replaced by

2491
01:53:28,960 --> 01:53:26,390
you know ABC story and I can't figure

2492
01:53:31,060 --> 01:53:28,970
out how the media decide what to cover

2493
01:53:34,570 --> 01:53:31,070
and and look what's face that newspapers

2494
01:53:38,230 --> 01:53:34,580
are in trouble we all know that I and

2495
01:53:40,060 --> 01:53:38,240
it's a shame but you know it's funny

2496
01:53:42,820 --> 01:53:40,070
tells you how the world is changing I

2497
01:53:45,730 --> 01:53:42,830
asked if somebody asked me I I don't

2498
01:53:49,660 --> 01:53:45,740
read books anymore much anymore he said

2499
01:53:52,300 --> 01:53:49,670
you got any DVDs and I said yes I do

2500
01:53:55,390 --> 01:53:52,310
have DVDs and they're on my list at

2501
01:53:59,050 --> 01:53:55,400
triple w dot Sam Friedman calm but it

2502
01:54:02,170 --> 01:53:59,060
seemed to me so sad you can read five

2503
01:54:04,480 --> 01:54:02,180
times faster than somebody can talk so

2504
01:54:08,980 --> 01:54:04,490
you can get a lot more solid information

2505
01:54:10,450 --> 01:54:08,990
you know from reading yeah but you know

2506
01:54:13,000 --> 01:54:10,460
we're not getting the kind of coverage

2507
01:54:15,460 --> 01:54:13,010
we need well it's the internet too is

2508
01:54:16,870 --> 01:54:15,470
decentralized in everything and it's

2509
01:54:19,780 --> 01:54:16,880
changing the music business the

2510
01:54:23,320 --> 01:54:19,790
publishing business newspapers magazines

2511
01:54:24,700 --> 01:54:23,330
books pretty soon every bookstore out

2512
01:54:28,510 --> 01:54:24,710
there is going to be an Amazon store

2513
01:54:30,850 --> 01:54:28,520
I predict it's it's sad I mean I just

2514
01:54:33,340 --> 01:54:30,860
released the 660 page book and I'll bet

2515
01:54:34,990 --> 01:54:33,350
you there's a lot of people that are not

2516
01:54:37,780 --> 01:54:35,000
going to get that book just because it

2517
01:54:40,600 --> 01:54:37,790
has a lot of data and is is pretty

2518
01:54:42,250 --> 01:54:40,610
volumous so yeah

2519
01:54:44,800 --> 01:54:42,260
getting to the point where this sound by

2520
01:54:47,650 --> 01:54:44,810
consciousness I think that we've seen

2521
01:54:50,890 --> 01:54:47,660
you know younger generations tension

2522
01:54:52,479 --> 01:54:50,900
spans are dropping off you know the you

2523
01:54:54,010 --> 01:54:52,489
know we're in everybody's got their nose

2524
01:54:57,459 --> 01:54:54,020
in their smartphone do you have a

2525
01:55:00,790 --> 01:54:57,469
smartphone by the way no are you gonna

2526
01:55:02,800 --> 01:55:00,800
get a smartphone no intention I don't

2527
01:55:05,020 --> 01:55:02,810
even have a cell phone you know you so

2528
01:55:09,600 --> 01:55:05,030
you're not a texture know I'm not a

2529
01:55:13,690 --> 01:55:09,610
texture definitely not a texture sorry

2530
01:55:15,130 --> 01:55:13,700
but you have a computer yeah oh yeah of

2531
01:55:17,260 --> 01:55:15,140
course obviously the reason I say that

2532
01:55:20,680 --> 01:55:17,270
is because our old friend the late Jim

2533
01:55:23,350 --> 01:55:20,690
Mosely never had a cell phone never had

2534
01:55:26,050 --> 01:55:23,360
caller ID or an answering machine on his

2535
01:55:31,840 --> 01:55:26,060
landline and never famously got a

2536
01:55:35,920 --> 01:55:31,850
computer I wonder where he went to

2537
01:55:38,740 --> 01:55:35,930
Princeton you know right well now a lot

2538
01:55:43,320 --> 01:55:38,750
of the people who went to Princeton are

2539
01:55:45,820 --> 01:55:43,330
gonna be upset sorry

2540
01:55:48,160 --> 01:55:45,830
well here's here's another question for

2541
01:55:50,229 --> 01:55:48,170
you Staunton somebody hi folks one of

2542
01:55:53,050 --> 01:55:50,239
our most active posters at forum dr.

2543
01:55:54,790 --> 01:55:53,060
Peric ascom where you too can post your

2544
01:55:57,940 --> 01:55:54,800
questions of our wonderful guests that

2545
01:56:02,080 --> 01:55:57,950
we have here then there's been some news

2546
01:56:05,170 --> 01:56:02,090
lately some kind of disturbing news

2547
01:56:07,780 --> 01:56:05,180
about Stan Romanek was a very

2548
01:56:10,810 --> 01:56:07,790
interesting character who's been

2549
01:56:12,610 --> 01:56:10,820
flitting around this field for a number

2550
01:56:15,610 --> 01:56:12,620
of years now he's made some pretty

2551
01:56:18,250 --> 01:56:15,620
incredible claims as has produced some

2552
01:56:21,820 --> 01:56:18,260
pretty questionable videos and other

2553
01:56:24,610 --> 01:56:21,830
things purporting to support his fairly

2554
01:56:27,700 --> 01:56:24,620
fantastic claims of alien abduction and

2555
01:56:29,590 --> 01:56:27,710
in government interest what are your

2556
01:56:31,750 --> 01:56:29,600
thoughts on Stan Romanick have you met

2557
01:56:34,570 --> 01:56:31,760
him have you looked into his case and I

2558
01:56:36,490 --> 01:56:34,580
have met I have met Stan I've heard him

2559
01:56:37,950 --> 01:56:36,500
talk I don't know what to make about

2560
01:56:40,380 --> 01:56:37,960
these there

2561
01:56:45,209 --> 01:56:40,390
were some serious charges laid against

2562
01:56:47,670 --> 01:56:45,219
him yep I and I I don't have enough

2563
01:56:49,680 --> 01:56:47,680
information to have a reasonable opinion

2564
01:56:51,780 --> 01:56:49,690
if I don't have a reasonable opinion I

2565
01:56:52,200 --> 01:56:51,790
won't express any right well that's all

2566
01:56:56,220 --> 01:56:52,210
right

2567
01:56:58,709 --> 01:56:56,230
way to go well you know why should I

2568
01:57:01,110 --> 01:56:58,719
replace conjecture

2569
01:57:03,570 --> 01:57:01,120
you know facts with conjecture I don't

2570
01:57:06,840 --> 01:57:03,580
want to lay well when it when I don't

2571
01:57:08,820 --> 01:57:06,850
know what the latest I don't know the

2572
01:57:10,800 --> 01:57:08,830
latest scoop on what happened with those

2573
01:57:12,959 --> 01:57:10,810
charges that were made against him yeah

2574
01:57:15,810 --> 01:57:12,969
well when I'm asked about it again I out

2575
01:57:18,120 --> 01:57:15,820
might my stock answer is well if a case

2576
01:57:20,850 --> 01:57:18,130
has too many elephant and elements that

2577
01:57:23,250 --> 01:57:20,860
are too good to be true you got to watch

2578
01:57:24,780 --> 01:57:23,260
out you know what let's make sure the

2579
01:57:25,260 --> 01:57:24,790
announcements are not too good to be

2580
01:57:27,479 --> 01:57:25,270
true

2581
01:57:29,340 --> 01:57:27,489
listen to them carefully we have Stanton

2582
01:57:35,360 --> 01:57:29,350
Friedman joining gene and Chris you're

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2604
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2605
01:58:45,870 --> 01:58:43,960
important certainly not in my 22 years

2606
01:58:48,690 --> 01:58:45,880
in the industry the dollar has lost over

2607
01:58:51,180 --> 01:58:48,700
90% of its value in the last 60 years

2608
01:58:51,500 --> 01:58:51,190
no fiat currency has ever survived the

2609
01:58:54,200 --> 01:58:51,510
govern

2610
01:58:58,910 --> 01:58:54,210
printing presses ours is not immune the

2611
01:59:02,029 --> 01:58:58,920
time is now to be proactive 1-866 to 237

2612
01:59:03,649 --> 01:59:02,039
extension 1 1 6 anything tied to the

2613
01:59:07,459 --> 01:59:03,659
dollar is at risk

2614
01:59:09,979 --> 01:59:07,469
CDs annuities 401ks IRAs stocks bonds

2615
01:59:11,930 --> 01:59:09,989
you name it so decide do you want to

2616
01:59:13,850 --> 01:59:11,940
leave a legacy of wealth or debt for

2617
01:59:15,770 --> 01:59:13,860
your family the choice is yours

2618
01:59:18,439 --> 01:59:15,780
call me a one eight hundred six eight

2619
01:59:20,720 --> 01:59:18,449
six two two thirty seven extension one

2620
01:59:23,509 --> 01:59:20,730
one six that's one eight hundred six

2621
01:59:25,870 --> 01:59:23,519
eight six two two three seven extension

2622
02:00:21,529 --> 01:59:25,880
one one six be proactive not reactive

2623
02:00:25,490 --> 02:00:23,270
and we've never increased our price in

2624
02:00:27,919 --> 02:00:25,500
over ten years that makes heart and body

2625
02:00:29,990 --> 02:00:27,929
extract as great a value now as it was

2626
02:00:31,069 --> 02:00:30,000
the first day we sold it a healthy heart

2627
02:00:33,259 --> 02:00:31,079
is a happy heart

2628
02:00:38,750 --> 02:00:33,269
call eight six six two nine five fifty

2629
02:00:40,549 --> 02:00:38,760
305 or go to HB extract calm this alert

2630
02:00:42,950 --> 02:00:40,559
just came in this special announcement

2631
02:00:45,049 --> 02:00:42,960
is for business owners and leaders of

2632
02:00:47,899 --> 02:00:45,059
organizations who've been waiting for

2633
02:00:49,580 --> 02:00:47,909
the right time to build general steel

2634
02:00:51,410 --> 02:00:49,590
has made it impossible to wait any

2635
02:00:53,600 --> 02:00:51,420
longer with rock-bottom prices that

2636
02:00:55,879 --> 02:00:53,610
could save you thousands that's right

2637
02:00:57,770 --> 02:00:55,889
general steel America's leader in pre

2638
02:00:59,660 --> 02:00:57,780
engineered structures is offering

2639
02:01:02,089 --> 02:00:59,670
buildings at prices you will never see

2640
02:01:04,400 --> 02:01:02,099
again don't miss these prices of 50 by

2641
02:01:06,260 --> 02:01:04,410
100 for $35,000

2642
02:01:09,020 --> 02:01:06,270
you heard right that's 5000 square feet

2643
02:01:10,940 --> 02:01:09,030
for $35,000 manufacturers if you need a

2644
02:01:12,560 --> 02:01:10,950
larger building try a 100 by 100

2645
02:01:14,510 --> 02:01:12,570
commercial building for a hundred and

2646
02:01:15,740 --> 02:01:14,520
twenty nine thousand you can't afford to

2647
02:01:17,990 --> 02:01:15,750
rent with these prices

2648
02:01:19,640 --> 02:01:18,000
imagine a 70 by 100 foot church building

2649
02:01:21,920 --> 02:01:19,650
for under sixty nine thousand dollars

2650
02:01:24,170 --> 02:01:21,930
with the economy improving and interest

2651
02:01:28,250 --> 02:01:24,180
rate still at historic lows you can't

2652
02:01:32,000 --> 02:01:28,260
afford to wait so call 866 91 steel lock

2653
02:01:34,550 --> 02:01:32,010
in your price now call 866 91 steel

2654
02:01:39,740 --> 02:01:34,560
that's eight six six nine one seven

2655
02:01:41,990 --> 02:01:39,750
eighty three thirty-five we'd like to

2656
02:01:44,450 --> 02:01:42,000
hear from you if you have a comment or

2657
02:01:48,530 --> 02:01:44,460
question about the para cast sent it to

2658
02:01:51,590 --> 02:01:48,540
news at the para cast com that's news at

2659
02:01:53,690 --> 02:01:51,600
the para cast calm and don't forget to

2660
02:01:57,800 --> 02:01:53,700
visit our famous para cast community

2661
02:02:00,980 --> 02:01:57,810
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2662
02:02:02,750 --> 02:02:00,990
I think it's fair though that we're not

2663
02:02:05,240 --> 02:02:02,760
going to comment on the legal troubles

2664
02:02:07,370 --> 02:02:05,250
that Stan Romanek is facing number one

2665
02:02:10,250 --> 02:02:07,380
of course he is innocent until proven

2666
02:02:12,290 --> 02:02:10,260
guilty let's leave it at that but I

2667
02:02:14,360 --> 02:02:12,300
personally wanted think there's a secret

2668
02:02:16,520 --> 02:02:14,370
plot on the part of the government to

2669
02:02:19,100 --> 02:02:16,530
discredit him Chris we got many more

2670
02:02:20,570 --> 02:02:19,110
questions don't we we do there's some

2671
02:02:22,610 --> 02:02:20,580
interesting ones this comes from one of

2672
02:02:25,370 --> 02:02:22,620
our newest sign ups that form doctor

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02:02:27,920 --> 02:02:25,380
para cast com her name is sue and she's

2674
02:02:30,440 --> 02:02:27,930
wondering about about the breakdown of

2675
02:02:32,060 --> 02:02:30,450
your audiences and she wants to you to

2676
02:02:34,430 --> 02:02:32,070
know if you can talk a little bit about

2677
02:02:37,250 --> 02:02:34,440
the kinds of audiences that you lecture

2678
02:02:38,690 --> 02:02:37,260
to I mean with 700 lectures and Counting

2679
02:02:40,880 --> 02:02:38,700
there's a lot it's kind of hard to I

2680
02:02:43,850 --> 02:02:40,890
guess generalize but are they mostly

2681
02:02:47,330 --> 02:02:43,860
believers deniers or neutral and what

2682
02:02:48,920 --> 02:02:47,340
kind of yeah I don't survey them at the

2683
02:02:50,840 --> 02:02:48,930
beginning of my lecture I wouldn't have

2684
02:02:52,910 --> 02:02:50,850
guts enough to by the time I'm finished

2685
02:02:55,040 --> 02:02:52,920
I think they're mostly believers because

2686
02:02:56,840 --> 02:02:55,050
somebody asked me at the University of

2687
02:02:58,340 --> 02:02:56,850
Manitoba after I finished we had a

2688
02:03:00,050 --> 02:02:58,350
packed house they were sitting in the

2689
02:03:02,840 --> 02:03:00,060
aisles literally so that always gives

2690
02:03:05,000 --> 02:03:02,850
you good vibes you know people think

2691
02:03:06,590 --> 02:03:05,010
cause other people think have the same

2692
02:03:08,630 --> 02:03:06,600
interest I do and that that's always a

2693
02:03:10,850 --> 02:03:08,640
good thing he asked me if I would poll

2694
02:03:13,280 --> 02:03:10,860
the audience I'd given some Gallup poll

2695
02:03:15,740 --> 02:03:13,290
results and I said well I don't usually

2696
02:03:18,470 --> 02:03:15,750
put the audience you know under the

2697
02:03:20,300 --> 02:03:18,480
microscope that my

2698
02:03:22,190 --> 02:03:20,310
well I said I don't think anybody mind

2699
02:03:25,340 --> 02:03:22,200
everybody claps so I polled the audience

2700
02:03:28,430 --> 02:03:25,350
and it's better than 90% who thought

2701
02:03:30,620 --> 02:03:28,440
some UFOs really enticement which was

2702
02:03:33,050 --> 02:03:30,630
kind of a nice response I think my

2703
02:03:35,270 --> 02:03:33,060
audience is more of them start off

2704
02:03:36,980 --> 02:03:35,280
neutral in any place else I mean it

2705
02:03:39,170 --> 02:03:36,990
takes guts to show up at a lecture by a

2706
02:03:42,050 --> 02:03:39,180
nuclear physicist saying flying saucers

2707
02:03:44,690 --> 02:03:42,060
are real I guess the college audiences

2708
02:03:46,460 --> 02:03:44,700
at the conferences well you know who

2709
02:03:48,620 --> 02:03:46,470
goes to conferences I guess people who

2710
02:03:51,890 --> 02:03:48,630
were believers mostly but they're mostly

2711
02:03:52,730 --> 02:03:51,900
open to the public anyway so it was

2712
02:03:54,590 --> 02:03:52,740
something I worried about at the

2713
02:03:57,380 --> 02:03:54,600
beginning but I stopped worrying about

2714
02:03:59,210 --> 02:03:57,390
it very quickly one of my first big

2715
02:04:02,330 --> 02:03:59,220
lectures was a talk to the engineering

2716
02:04:03,830 --> 02:04:02,340
Society of Detroit ever sold out three

2717
02:04:05,840 --> 02:04:03,840
weeks in advance for a thousand and

2718
02:04:09,200 --> 02:04:05,850
eight people for dinner and a talk and

2719
02:04:10,970 --> 02:04:09,210
there wasn't one negative question no

2720
02:04:13,280 --> 02:04:10,980
and that's not a bunch of little old

2721
02:04:15,920 --> 02:04:13,290
ladies in tennis shoes Oh Engineering

2722
02:04:18,730 --> 02:04:15,930
Society of Detroit and so it was

2723
02:04:22,040 --> 02:04:18,740
response well I got asked to speak at

2724
02:04:24,590 --> 02:04:22,050
Los Alamos the Los Alamos section of the

2725
02:04:26,360 --> 02:04:24,600
American nuclear society and there

2726
02:04:29,240 --> 02:04:26,370
wasn't one negative question we had over

2727
02:04:32,300 --> 02:04:29,250
500 people out all right one of their

2728
02:04:33,320 --> 02:04:32,310
best crowds ever now pointing out here

2729
02:04:35,890 --> 02:04:33,330
because I've been to some of your

2730
02:04:38,600 --> 02:04:35,900
lectures you don't have people in there

2731
02:04:40,850 --> 02:04:38,610
gathering only the favorable questions I

2732
02:04:42,710 --> 02:04:40,860
mean people have an equal right not at

2733
02:04:45,350 --> 02:04:42,720
all opportunity to step up there and ask

2734
02:04:48,440 --> 02:04:45,360
any question they want oh yeah yeah and

2735
02:04:50,870 --> 02:04:48,450
as a matter of fact one night I'm

2736
02:04:52,700 --> 02:04:50,880
typical I suppose not wasn't typical but

2737
02:04:55,790 --> 02:04:52,710
the first guy to stand up I call on him

2738
02:04:57,860 --> 02:04:55,800
he starts off great I've never heard so

2739
02:05:00,500 --> 02:04:57,870
much nonsense in one night in my life

2740
02:05:03,200 --> 02:05:00,510
great great way to start so fortunately

2741
02:05:06,860 --> 02:05:03,210
I had the good sense to say can you be a

2742
02:05:08,810 --> 02:05:06,870
bit more specifically sir you said that

2743
02:05:12,920 --> 02:05:08,820
Betty and Barney Hill were taken to Zeta

2744
02:05:14,810 --> 02:05:12,930
Reticuli and back in two hours I said no

2745
02:05:17,450 --> 02:05:14,820
sir what I said was they were taken on

2746
02:05:20,180 --> 02:05:17,460
board a craft there were for two hours

2747
02:05:21,950 --> 02:05:20,190
they didn't go anywhere and he came up

2748
02:05:23,660 --> 02:05:21,960
with another you said and after the

2749
02:05:26,140 --> 02:05:23,670
third one somebody in the audience said

2750
02:05:29,000 --> 02:05:26,150
how about taking some sensible question

2751
02:05:31,810 --> 02:05:29,010
this guy gets up well-dressed

2752
02:05:34,180 --> 02:05:31,820
well-spoken leaves

2753
02:05:35,950 --> 02:05:34,190
I'll take your question but who was that

2754
02:05:38,470 --> 02:05:35,960
obviously I've gotten under his skin he

2755
02:05:42,729 --> 02:05:38,480
was a professor of physics what can I

2756
02:05:45,160 --> 02:05:42,739
say so I don't worry about how the

2757
02:05:49,149 --> 02:05:45,170
people are going to react to my lectures

2758
02:05:50,740 --> 02:05:49,159
and now admittedly I I do do something a

2759
02:05:52,540 --> 02:05:50,750
little unusual I don't ask at the

2760
02:05:55,330 --> 02:05:52,550
beginning how many people have seen a

2761
02:05:56,589 --> 02:05:55,340
flying saucer well that's my first

2762
02:05:59,350 --> 02:05:56,599
question in the question and answer

2763
02:06:01,419 --> 02:05:59,360
period is how many people here believe

2764
02:06:04,030 --> 02:06:01,429
they've seen what I would consider to be

2765
02:06:06,459 --> 02:06:04,040
a flying saucer just raise your hand and

2766
02:06:08,229 --> 02:06:06,469
I just want to point and count and we

2767
02:06:10,930 --> 02:06:08,239
didn't let the CIA in I'll make some

2768
02:06:13,300 --> 02:06:10,940
stupid remark like that and I do point

2769
02:06:14,530 --> 02:06:13,310
in count one two three four and by the

2770
02:06:16,060 --> 02:06:14,540
time I get over to the far right-hand

2771
02:06:19,180 --> 02:06:16,070
side of the hall the hands go up

2772
02:06:21,459 --> 02:06:19,190
vigorously the first guys raise their

2773
02:06:24,459 --> 02:06:21,469
hands reluctantly well typically it's

2774
02:06:25,990 --> 02:06:24,469
10% which a lot of people in other words

2775
02:06:27,189 --> 02:06:26,000
if I got a thousand people out there

2776
02:06:30,189 --> 02:06:27,199
that's a hundred people who've had

2777
02:06:33,580 --> 02:06:30,199
sightings but then I ask how many of you

2778
02:06:36,459 --> 02:06:33,590
reported what you saw 90% of the hands

2779
02:06:37,689 --> 02:06:36,469
go down if there's anybody left they'll

2780
02:06:40,450 --> 02:06:37,699
say how many of you were in the military

2781
02:06:42,520 --> 02:06:40,460
at the time still some hands will say

2782
02:06:45,160 --> 02:06:42,530
you want to tell us about it one guy in

2783
02:06:47,649 --> 02:06:45,170
front of 1,300 people said I can't they

2784
02:06:50,290 --> 02:06:47,659
told me not to say anything which was a

2785
02:06:52,990 --> 02:06:50,300
great line and somebody else in Indiana

2786
02:06:56,169 --> 02:06:53,000
that was in Texas and Indiana said they

2787
02:06:58,300 --> 02:06:56,179
took my pictures did sign so I said look

2788
02:06:59,830 --> 02:06:58,310
I'm not asking your name you don't need

2789
02:07:01,359 --> 02:06:59,840
to stand up but I'm sure the audience

2790
02:07:03,700 --> 02:07:01,369
would like to hear the rest of the story

2791
02:07:05,500 --> 02:07:03,710
everybody claps he was piloting a

2792
02:07:07,689 --> 02:07:05,510
four-engine the United States Air Force

2793
02:07:10,240 --> 02:07:07,699
flying over the Pacific get a call from

2794
02:07:12,069 --> 02:07:10,250
a plane 20 miles ahead so as they're

2795
02:07:13,990 --> 02:07:12,079
heading your way they had gun cameras

2796
02:07:16,030 --> 02:07:14,000
they took pictures they radio the base

2797
02:07:17,319 --> 02:07:16,040
to which they were going the crew

2798
02:07:20,439 --> 02:07:17,329
doesn't handle the film that's

2799
02:07:23,080 --> 02:07:20,449
intelligence stuff I they told them they

2800
02:07:25,030 --> 02:07:23,090
were bringing stuff in when they landed

2801
02:07:29,379 --> 02:07:25,040
they got debrief told never to say

2802
02:07:30,700 --> 02:07:29,389
anything I'll guarantee you that 99% of

2803
02:07:32,290 --> 02:07:30,710
the people in the audience believe the

2804
02:07:34,780 --> 02:07:32,300
story because he just came across so

2805
02:07:37,930 --> 02:07:34,790
well so when you get enough for this

2806
02:07:41,399 --> 02:07:37,940
kind of thing I don't worry about it

2807
02:07:45,180 --> 02:07:41,409
well why should I know people are decent

2808
02:07:48,390 --> 02:07:45,190
let me ask you another question here

2809
02:07:50,730 --> 02:07:48,400
and that is after all these years do you

2810
02:07:53,190 --> 02:07:50,740
feel that the US government or any

2811
02:07:56,940 --> 02:07:53,200
government has enough guilty knowledge

2812
02:07:58,920 --> 02:07:56,950
about UFOs to have a thorough picture of

2813
02:08:00,690 --> 02:07:58,930
what they are and what they aren't well

2814
02:08:04,710 --> 02:08:00,700
when you say the government that makes

2815
02:08:06,180 --> 02:08:04,720
it sound is of everybody and I I would

2816
02:08:08,010 --> 02:08:06,190
say that there were appropriate people

2817
02:08:09,540 --> 02:08:08,020
in the intelligence community who

2818
02:08:11,910 --> 02:08:09,550
certainly know what's going on

2819
02:08:13,320 --> 02:08:11,920
I wouldn't say everybody you don't keep

2820
02:08:16,470 --> 02:08:13,330
secrets by telling everybody in the

2821
02:08:18,740 --> 02:08:16,480
government you don't know as possible

2822
02:08:21,840 --> 02:08:18,750
well I'm not allocating any specific

2823
02:08:25,380 --> 02:08:21,850
agency I'm assuming any agency within a

2824
02:08:28,460 --> 02:08:25,390
government yes the answer is yes I think

2825
02:08:31,890 --> 02:08:28,470
they know indeed that were being visited

2826
02:08:34,590 --> 02:08:31,900
indeed that the aliens are doing their

2827
02:08:37,710 --> 02:08:34,600
things so to speak and you know people

2828
02:08:40,890 --> 02:08:37,720
forget way back in 1952 there was a

2829
02:08:43,680 --> 02:08:40,900
military order an order issued to

2830
02:08:46,250 --> 02:08:43,690
military pilots shoot them down if they

2831
02:08:49,290 --> 02:08:46,260
don't land when instructed to do so

2832
02:08:51,240 --> 02:08:49,300
and interestingly enough the story

2833
02:08:54,330 --> 02:08:51,250
wasn't carried in the New York Times of

2834
02:08:57,450 --> 02:08:54,340
The Washington Post and it was a general

2835
02:09:00,210 --> 02:08:57,460
who said that indeed we've scrambled 300

2836
02:09:02,610 --> 02:09:00,220
times I personally have had seven

2837
02:09:04,620 --> 02:09:02,620
different people quietly talk to me

2838
02:09:06,450 --> 02:09:04,630
after my lecture about being at a

2839
02:09:09,570 --> 02:09:06,460
military base where planes were

2840
02:09:11,280 --> 02:09:09,580
scrambled and a guy didn't come back if

2841
02:09:13,260 --> 02:09:11,290
I've heard it seven times and there got

2842
02:09:15,450 --> 02:09:13,270
to be a lot more than that well Frank

2843
02:09:17,970 --> 02:09:15,460
Ficino and his excellent book about the

2844
02:09:21,960 --> 02:09:17,980
flatwoods monster case check the New

2845
02:09:25,940 --> 02:09:21,970
York Times over 200 cases of fatal

2846
02:09:30,600 --> 02:09:25,950
military airplane crashes between 51 and

2847
02:09:33,750 --> 02:09:30,610
56 and five of the pilots had over a

2848
02:09:35,250 --> 02:09:33,760
hundred missions in Korea when there

2849
02:09:38,160 --> 02:09:35,260
were MiG's trying to shoot them down

2850
02:09:40,860 --> 02:09:38,170
they come back to the United States and

2851
02:09:44,010 --> 02:09:40,870
they had a fatal crash which is kind of

2852
02:09:46,680 --> 02:09:44,020
suspicious so somebody knows what's

2853
02:09:48,570 --> 02:09:46,690
going on and what people forget we're

2854
02:09:50,100 --> 02:09:48,580
used to hearing sightings about Joe Blow

2855
02:09:51,780 --> 02:09:50,110
your next-door neighbor somebody down

2856
02:09:54,360 --> 02:09:51,790
the street somebody in town having a

2857
02:09:57,270 --> 02:09:54,370
sighting but the guys with the radar are

2858
02:09:59,640 --> 02:09:57,280
the military guys the guys with the gun

2859
02:10:01,830 --> 02:09:59,650
cameras are the military

2860
02:10:05,339 --> 02:10:01,840
the intelligence community has those spy

2861
02:10:09,810 --> 02:10:05,349
satellites is not you and me at least I

2862
02:10:11,640 --> 02:10:09,820
don't know so what I'm saying is yes

2863
02:10:14,339 --> 02:10:11,650
there are people who know and I do think

2864
02:10:16,950 --> 02:10:14,349
there wasn't a majestic 12 okay let's

2865
02:10:18,839 --> 02:10:16,960
pursue that in our next segment okay

2866
02:10:26,910 --> 02:10:18,849
Stan Friedman joining us with Jean and

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Chris you're in Liberec at GCS probably

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is Leslie Caine and I'm with the

2970
02:14:49,400 --> 02:14:44,650
Coalition for freedom of information and

2971
02:14:53,729 --> 02:14:49,410
you are listening to the podcast ok so

2972
02:14:57,120 --> 02:14:53,739
you feel that those lost pilots were

2973
02:14:58,950 --> 02:14:57,130
lost to may have seen or chase UFOs was

2974
02:15:01,830 --> 02:14:58,960
that an accident or was it something on

2975
02:15:04,070 --> 02:15:01,840
the part of them well the stories I've

2976
02:15:07,080 --> 02:15:04,080
heard would indicate it was self-defense

2977
02:15:10,500 --> 02:15:07,090
you know shoot first ask questions later

2978
02:15:12,570 --> 02:15:10,510
and there's one great story the guy I

2979
02:15:15,720 --> 02:15:12,580
don't know if he's so lying on him is

2980
02:15:18,120 --> 02:15:15,730
older than I was but he was a pilot I

2981
02:15:20,310 --> 02:15:18,130
got scrambled one night out in South

2982
02:15:22,920 --> 02:15:20,320
Carolina or someplace and uh because

2983
02:15:24,870 --> 02:15:22,930
there was a bogey and any radios to the

2984
02:15:27,630 --> 02:15:24,880
ground you know where is it well he's

2985
02:15:31,260 --> 02:15:27,640
come right up toward you those thing

2986
02:15:33,600 --> 02:15:31,270
comes up heads toward him bright light

2987
02:15:37,380 --> 02:15:33,610
he puts his hand up and he can see his

2988
02:15:40,050 --> 02:15:37,390
bones in his hand that's scary and

2989
02:15:42,060 --> 02:15:40,060
what's he gonna do well a guy's taking

2990
02:15:44,550 --> 02:15:42,070
offensive action against him he pulls

2991
02:15:48,090 --> 02:15:44,560
the trigger on his guns the only trouble

2992
02:15:50,670 --> 02:15:48,100
is they hadn't been loaded oh and the

2993
02:15:52,500 --> 02:15:50,680
object went by and he's talking on the

2994
02:15:55,620 --> 02:15:52,510
radio you understand and the controller

2995
02:15:58,830 --> 02:15:55,630
down below and he spent a couple hours

2996
02:16:01,860 --> 02:15:58,840
once he landed lived a couple of suits

2997
02:16:04,530 --> 02:16:01,870
and a couple of guys in uniform and we

2998
02:16:06,570 --> 02:16:04,540
agreed that the only reason he was still

2999
02:16:09,570 --> 02:16:06,580
alive is the guns were in loaded

3000
02:16:11,990 --> 02:16:09,580
yeah kind of reminds me of the case a

3001
02:16:14,880 --> 02:16:12,000
fairly famous case I think it was a

3002
02:16:17,310 --> 02:16:14,890
Chilean Colonel wasn't it that the fired

3003
02:16:18,840 --> 02:16:17,320
is thirty millimeter cannon and he

3004
02:16:23,100 --> 02:16:18,850
claimed this huge object was able to

3005
02:16:24,510 --> 02:16:23,110
absorb these rounds yeah yeah and that

3006
02:16:27,340 --> 02:16:24,520
knows

3007
02:16:32,070 --> 02:16:27,350
what I'm saying is well there's the

3008
02:16:35,830 --> 02:16:32,080
Cuban MIG case picked up by our spy

3009
02:16:39,520 --> 02:16:35,840
installations surrounding Cuba and many

3010
02:16:41,589 --> 02:16:39,530
years ago and the saucier comes in from

3011
02:16:46,930 --> 02:16:41,599
the Northeast heading Southwest Mach 1

3012
02:16:49,299 --> 02:16:46,940
30,000 feet and our guy is listening to

3013
02:16:51,720 --> 02:16:49,309
the the military communications the

3014
02:16:54,820 --> 02:16:51,730
Cuban Air Defense Command if you will

3015
02:16:56,890 --> 02:16:54,830
and there's chatter what should we do

3016
02:16:59,530 --> 02:16:56,900
and they scramble a couple of jets and

3017
02:17:01,629 --> 02:16:59,540
they tell them tell them to get the heck

3018
02:17:03,940 --> 02:17:01,639
out of our airspace basically and they

3019
02:17:07,600 --> 02:17:03,950
do and nothing happens what should we do

3020
02:17:09,790 --> 02:17:07,610
now shoot it down our guys are listening

3021
02:17:17,980 --> 02:17:09,800
the role linguists Russian Spanish

3022
02:17:23,140 --> 02:17:17,990
English and the lead pilot radios then

3023
02:17:26,200 --> 02:17:23,150
he's got a lock on his missiles ready to

3024
02:17:28,839 --> 02:17:26,210
fire and then the second pilot screams

3025
02:17:31,330 --> 02:17:28,849
in the microphone but the first plane

3026
02:17:33,580 --> 02:17:31,340
just disintegrated and you can certainly

3027
02:17:38,290 --> 02:17:33,590
tell when the other guys got you on his

3028
02:17:41,560 --> 02:17:38,300
radar and so forth so the strange part

3029
02:17:43,660 --> 02:17:41,570
about this story is they send in there

3030
02:17:45,430 --> 02:17:43,670
was going to say translation that's not

3031
02:17:48,250 --> 02:17:45,440
what I mean and just a recital of the

3032
02:17:50,350 --> 02:17:48,260
radio communications and then I got

3033
02:17:52,980 --> 02:17:50,360
asked to send in the original tape and

3034
02:17:57,100 --> 02:17:52,990
my guy is telling me that was very

3035
02:17:58,600 --> 02:17:57,110
unusual and I said well you think they

3036
02:18:00,970 --> 02:17:58,610
could learn something more from that

3037
02:18:03,520 --> 02:18:00,980
moment you know before the shoot-down

3038
02:18:05,620 --> 02:18:03,530
and after it he says I don't know but it

3039
02:18:08,049 --> 02:18:05,630
was unusual and they did it they didn't

3040
02:18:10,049 --> 02:18:08,059
get what they asked for so what I'm

3041
02:18:12,339 --> 02:18:10,059
saying is none of the stories I've heard

3042
02:18:13,629 --> 02:18:12,349
this doesn't prove anything I'm just

3043
02:18:15,339 --> 02:18:13,639
telling you that none of the seven

3044
02:18:19,030 --> 02:18:15,349
stories that I've heard was there an

3045
02:18:22,209 --> 02:18:19,040
indication of overt hostility the saucer

3046
02:18:24,759 --> 02:18:22,219
comes in zap zap zap that's not what any

3047
02:18:26,290 --> 02:18:24,769
of the cases seem to be so what does

3048
02:18:28,839 --> 02:18:26,300
that indicate to you that we're dealing

3049
02:18:32,470 --> 02:18:28,849
with a neutral presence on the planet or

3050
02:18:34,440 --> 02:18:32,480
a presence that has our best interests

3051
02:18:37,509 --> 02:18:34,450
at heart I know people like Steven Greer

3052
02:18:39,459 --> 02:18:37,519
you know have made

3053
02:18:40,719 --> 02:18:39,469
I wouldn't put it that way I don't think

3054
02:18:43,120 --> 02:18:40,729
they have our best interests at heart

3055
02:18:46,779 --> 02:18:43,130
they have their best interests at heart

3056
02:18:47,919 --> 02:18:46,789
but they don't seem to be nasty sob in

3057
02:18:50,319 --> 02:18:47,929
other words they don't seem to be here

3058
02:18:53,349 --> 02:18:50,329
to aggressively take potshots at our

3059
02:18:56,069 --> 02:18:53,359
vehicles yeah so these are all

3060
02:18:59,439 --> 02:18:56,079
reactionary events in other words

3061
02:19:02,229 --> 02:18:59,449
all the ones I've heard yes yeah yes mm

3062
02:19:04,089 --> 02:19:02,239
interesting well this brings up an

3063
02:19:07,000 --> 02:19:04,099
interesting question here about the

3064
02:19:09,099 --> 02:19:07,010
field of ufology in general and you know

3065
02:19:11,229 --> 02:19:09,109
as someone who is you know one of the

3066
02:19:14,139 --> 02:19:11,239
pillars of the youth illogical community

3067
02:19:16,959 --> 02:19:14,149
it's been you know a very prominent

3068
02:19:19,269 --> 02:19:16,969
spokesperson for decades now you have

3069
02:19:21,669 --> 02:19:19,279
somehow managed to stay above the fray

3070
02:19:24,629 --> 02:19:21,679
with a lot of the petty squabbling that

3071
02:19:28,839 --> 02:19:24,639
goes on and one of our newest Sinese

3072
02:19:31,959 --> 02:19:28,849
Mike Thoth he's a clinical specialist in

3073
02:19:33,790 --> 02:19:31,969
COPD technology he's been a member for a

3074
02:19:36,040 --> 02:19:33,800
while but he rarely post questions and

3075
02:19:37,540 --> 02:19:36,050
one of his questions is he's interested

3076
02:19:39,849 --> 02:19:37,550
in your opinion on the field of ethology

3077
02:19:41,500 --> 02:19:39,859
in general it has been said by some

3078
02:19:43,179 --> 02:19:41,510
commentators that much of the field

3079
02:19:45,639 --> 02:19:43,189
spends their time arguing on the

3080
02:19:47,200 --> 02:19:45,649
validity of cases or witnesses with some

3081
02:19:49,689 --> 02:19:47,210
researchers and one camp others in

3082
02:19:51,160 --> 02:19:49,699
opposing camps does this happen in your

3083
02:19:53,170 --> 02:19:51,170
experience and what are your thoughts in

3084
02:19:56,550 --> 02:19:53,180
general and how do you stay above the

3085
02:20:00,490 --> 02:19:56,560
fray of course mj-12 would be the one

3086
02:20:02,529 --> 02:20:00,500
controversy that's kind of you know been

3087
02:20:04,120 --> 02:20:02,539
touted with your name on the supporter

3088
02:20:05,710 --> 02:20:04,130
side for many years in the woods of

3089
02:20:08,429 --> 02:20:05,720
course how do you stay above the fray

3090
02:20:12,250 --> 02:20:08,439
and what do you think about this

3091
02:20:16,059 --> 02:20:12,260
terrible you know penchant of ufologists

3092
02:20:19,029 --> 02:20:16,069
to really get squab Lee and and and

3093
02:20:20,740 --> 02:20:19,039
there's a lot of infighting going on we

3094
02:20:22,750 --> 02:20:20,750
don't have real you know there's no

3095
02:20:26,200 --> 02:20:22,760
American Physical Society for UFO

3096
02:20:29,969 --> 02:20:26,210
studies no professional body if you will

3097
02:20:35,830 --> 02:20:29,979
yes and we have Anne APRA we're gone and

3098
02:20:39,700 --> 02:20:35,840
new fun isn't really up to moderating

3099
02:20:42,910 --> 02:20:39,710
every argument that comes along uh I

3100
02:20:46,540 --> 02:20:42,920
I'm helped by the fact that I lived 73

3101
02:20:48,460 --> 02:20:46,550
miles east of beautiful downtown home on

3102
02:20:50,950 --> 02:20:48,470
in the middle of nowhere in Fredericton

3103
02:20:51,400 --> 02:20:50,960
New Brunswick great place to visit and

3104
02:20:56,261 --> 02:20:51,410
not in the

3105
02:20:59,770 --> 02:20:56,271
winter probably but I try to focus on

3106
02:21:03,190 --> 02:20:59,780
large-scale scientific studies instead

3107
02:21:05,080 --> 02:21:03,200
of so much individual cases and I try to

3108
02:21:06,940 --> 02:21:05,090
if I'm going to spend energy attacking

3109
02:21:10,511 --> 02:21:06,950
anybody it's gonna be the nasty noisy

3110
02:21:13,660 --> 02:21:10,521
negative you know with facts and data

3111
02:21:17,040 --> 02:21:13,670
and here's what they say and here's what

3112
02:21:21,640 --> 02:21:17,050
the facts are so that I don't get

3113
02:21:24,820 --> 02:21:21,650
dredged into dragged into the kind of

3114
02:21:27,700 --> 02:21:24,830
stuff I mean it's likely fill class it's

3115
02:21:29,591 --> 02:21:27,710
kind of funny his papers are out the

3116
02:21:32,200 --> 02:21:29,601
American Philosophical Society library

3117
02:21:34,091 --> 02:21:32,210
in Philadelphia I was supposed to be

3118
02:21:36,220 --> 02:21:34,101
there right after the new font

3119
02:21:38,440 --> 02:21:36,230
conference and I because of my heart

3120
02:21:42,040 --> 02:21:38,450
attack I didn't go but there is no

3121
02:21:43,631 --> 02:21:42,050
Friedman file 35 boxes of papers and he

3122
02:21:46,780 --> 02:21:43,641
and I corresponded for more than 20

3123
02:21:48,520 --> 02:21:46,790
years and I keep saying and one of the

3124
02:21:51,220 --> 02:21:48,530
reasons is probably doesn't want people

3125
02:21:53,290 --> 02:21:51,230
to know that he paid me a thousand

3126
02:21:57,640 --> 02:21:53,300
dollars for proving him wrong about the

3127
02:22:01,631 --> 02:21:57,650
mj-12 documents he claimed that the

3128
02:22:03,460 --> 02:22:01,641
typeface on one of the documents was the

3129
02:22:06,120 --> 02:22:03,470
large mica type it should have been the

3130
02:22:08,170 --> 02:22:06,130
small elite type because the yen s

3131
02:22:11,080 --> 02:22:08,180
national security council in this case

3132
02:22:12,940 --> 02:22:11,090
used the smaller lead type now he knew

3133
02:22:13,420 --> 02:22:12,950
that because he'd gotten nine documents

3134
02:22:16,511 --> 02:22:13,430
by mail

3135
02:22:20,650 --> 02:22:16,521
he'd never I checked on this twice never

3136
02:22:23,591 --> 02:22:20,660
been to the Eisenhower library I and he

3137
02:22:27,990 --> 02:22:23,601
offered me in a very condescending kind

3138
02:22:31,270 --> 02:22:28,000
of way $100 each for every genuine

3139
02:22:34,960 --> 02:22:31,280
document I could find that was done in

3140
02:22:38,580 --> 02:22:34,970
the same size and style I could type as

3141
02:22:41,410 --> 02:22:38,590
the colored twining memo as it happened

3142
02:22:44,110 --> 02:22:41,420
and he gave me 60 days to do it in

3143
02:22:45,820 --> 02:22:44,120
wasn't that nice of him well I was fine

3144
02:22:49,240 --> 02:22:45,830
and going there in a couple of weeks so

3145
02:22:52,570 --> 02:22:49,250
I went and it was easy to pick out the

3146
02:22:54,670 --> 02:22:52,580
pie could type and I got 14 that I made

3147
02:22:56,860 --> 02:22:54,680
copies of and sent him copies open I

3148
02:22:58,780 --> 02:22:56,870
sent him an invoice for a thousand

3149
02:23:03,131 --> 02:22:58,790
dollars he's hit a limit unfortunately

3150
02:23:04,960 --> 02:23:03,141
of ten he'd paid for ten I so I can only

3151
02:23:05,500 --> 02:23:04,970
collect the thousand dollars and he paid

3152
02:23:07,540 --> 02:23:05,510
me

3153
02:23:09,990 --> 02:23:07,550
and I get a great laugh of my lectures

3154
02:23:14,110 --> 02:23:10,000
and when I show a copy of his check I

3155
02:23:17,020 --> 02:23:14,120
included a copy and in a book and he got

3156
02:23:18,190 --> 02:23:17,030
mattered and you can imagine he was

3157
02:23:20,230 --> 02:23:18,200
threatening to sue me

3158
02:23:21,970 --> 02:23:20,240
his father was an attorney so he knew

3159
02:23:23,921 --> 02:23:21,980
how to write threatening letters you

3160
02:23:24,700 --> 02:23:23,931
know and so I told him I said Phil you

3161
02:23:28,060 --> 02:23:24,710
sent me a check

3162
02:23:30,280 --> 02:23:28,070
ize erock stit I took the check to the

3163
02:23:33,730 --> 02:23:30,290
bank they cashed it I can do whatever I

3164
02:23:37,720 --> 02:23:33,740
darn pleased with this ever really and

3165
02:23:40,150 --> 02:23:37,730
he shut up but you know there's real

3166
02:23:43,421 --> 02:23:40,160
objectivity this is an example I

3167
02:23:46,990 --> 02:23:43,431
mentioned in my new fun paper it never

3168
02:23:48,881 --> 02:23:47,000
even been to the library yeah where he

3169
02:23:52,540 --> 02:23:48,891
was talking about what the documents are

3170
02:23:55,480 --> 02:23:52,550
like huh well another example twice on

3171
02:23:57,520 --> 02:23:55,490
the Larry King show once with David

3172
02:24:02,410 --> 02:23:57,530
Jacobs he was as opinion about David's

3173
02:24:04,421 --> 02:24:02,420
book one about constructions and all

3174
02:24:06,730 --> 02:24:04,431
those people in bonds were all had

3175
02:24:09,070 --> 02:24:06,740
mental no problems blah blah blah he's

3176
02:24:10,301 --> 02:24:09,080
an electrical engineer why where does he

3177
02:24:12,460 --> 02:24:10,311
get off saying that and I'll help

3178
02:24:14,650 --> 02:24:12,470
problems let's finish that answer in our

3179
02:24:18,000 --> 02:24:14,660
final second was Stanton Friedman was

3180
02:24:25,349 --> 02:24:18,010
Jean and Chris you're in the period

3181
02:24:31,170 --> 02:24:28,300
free from the shackles of Corporate

3182
02:24:37,690 --> 02:24:31,180
America we're the place for independent

3183
02:24:39,429 --> 02:24:37,700
thinkers attack of the rock oyd has been

3184
02:24:41,440 --> 02:24:39,439
well received by critics and readers

3185
02:24:44,230 --> 02:24:41,450
alike it's a thrill a minute story

3186
02:24:46,570 --> 02:24:44,240
you'll never forget a former US military

3187
02:24:48,820 --> 02:24:46,580
intelligence officer is haunted by

3188
02:24:51,460 --> 02:24:48,830
intense dreams about a beautiful woman

3189
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[Music]

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hi my name is Richard Dolan you're

3282
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so would be psychiatrist

3283
02:29:04,769 --> 02:29:02,739
Phil glass suggests that people who were

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involved in abductions really have

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psychological problems you are

3286
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continuing this answer Stan yeah and

3287
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then halfway through the show Larry

3288
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asked him if he'd read the book I mean

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the foreword for the book was written by

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John Mack a professor of psychiatry you

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know at Harvard who does know something

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about mental health problems and and he

3293
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admitted I guess Larry caught him up

3294
02:29:31,500 --> 02:29:28,989
short no he hadn't read the book and the

3295
02:29:33,659 --> 02:29:31,510
same thing happened different program he

3296
02:29:37,800 --> 02:29:33,669
was on with Kevin Randall I'm talking

3297
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about Roswell and he expressed some

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strong opinions you know nothing to it

3299
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and so forth and then again Larry asked

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him and he read the book well no typical

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field class kind of approach to things

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you know unfortunately I stayed off his

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radar I met him one time at the 98 MUFON

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symposium and he was he was you know

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kind of hobbled a little bit he had a

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walker and was 12 walking down the

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hallway during a lecture there was

3308
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nobody in there and I walked up to him

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put my hand around his shoulder and said

3310
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you know Phil I don't care what they say

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about you you are one tough little

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Bulldog and he looked at me and he goes

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well who they had to you and I said I'm

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not gonna tell you I don't I don't ever

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that was my my one and only conversation

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with Bill class I stayed off his radar

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well he knew who I even unfortunately we

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even did a debate at Trinity College in

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Texas I think it wasn't he tried to put

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a bunch of dots on a piece of paper and

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bring it over to me and want me to look

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at it and then reproduce it later on he

3323
02:30:47,789 --> 02:30:46,029
was talking about Marjorie Fisher's work

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with the Betty Hill storm that you know

3325
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I had to point out that in the first

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place Betty had drawn the map under

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specific instructions from one of the

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best people in the world when it came to

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post-traumatic stress disorder

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shell-shocked War vet couldn't say Colin

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Penn under specific instructions only if

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you remember it accurately and so forth

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and that

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she wasn't on a stage and with an

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audience of hundreds of people you know

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02:31:18,990 --> 02:31:17,110
and the proof of the pudding on a map is

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what Martin's the results of Marjorie

3338
02:31:24,719 --> 02:31:20,920
Fisher's work she came up with a quite

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unique answer that we didn't know that

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02:31:30,810 --> 02:31:28,510
and we hadn't known beforehand but the

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real question and maybe somebody

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02:31:35,219 --> 02:31:32,800
listening if they know will contact me

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go to my website it's got my email

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address there oh I better give my new

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email address because it's changed and

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02:31:50,040 --> 02:31:43,570
some people said oh it bounced and can't

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reach here well it's F s pH Y s easy way

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02:32:01,440 --> 02:31:52,300
to remember that flying saucer physicist

3349
02:32:07,590 --> 02:32:01,450
FS pH wine at Bell Aliant dotnet de ll

3350
02:32:09,480 --> 02:32:07,600
al I am T dotnet there is a question of

3351
02:32:12,780 --> 02:32:09,490
whether phil was working for the

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02:32:15,000 --> 02:32:12,790
government or not you can get his FBI

3353
02:32:17,700 --> 02:32:15,010
file it was on the internet and they

3354
02:32:20,520 --> 02:32:17,710
didn't like him at all but whether he

3355
02:32:22,770 --> 02:32:20,530
was working for the CIA and other things

3356
02:32:24,600 --> 02:32:22,780
that anybody knows and one guy tell me

3357
02:32:26,310 --> 02:32:24,610
so I'm at a facility where he had to

3358
02:32:29,630 --> 02:32:26,320
have had a security clearance in order

3359
02:32:32,400 --> 02:32:29,640
to be in there so I'm looking for more

3360
02:32:34,679 --> 02:32:32,410
we haven't got a lot of time left and so

3361
02:32:36,210 --> 02:32:34,689
let's do really fancy names to a few

3362
02:32:39,360 --> 02:32:36,220
questions okay all right let me just

3363
02:32:42,120 --> 02:32:39,370
throw one or two things at you all right

3364
02:32:44,100 --> 02:32:42,130
so more and more we hear about these M

3365
02:32:46,650 --> 02:32:44,110
type or Goldilocks planets being

3366
02:32:48,960 --> 02:32:46,660
discovered particularly in our so called

3367
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galactic neighborhood which indicates

3368
02:32:53,580 --> 02:32:51,820
out there that more and more it's fairly

3369
02:32:56,070 --> 02:32:53,590
obvious that there are many many

3370
02:32:58,050 --> 02:32:56,080
civilizations out there now this is part

3371
02:33:00,300 --> 02:32:58,060
of the natural outgrowth of Sciences

3372
02:33:02,969 --> 02:33:00,310
we've talked about before but would it

3373
02:33:05,969 --> 02:33:02,979
also be part of what many might consider

3374
02:33:08,280 --> 02:33:05,979
a gradual disclosure once we accept the

3375
02:33:11,130 --> 02:33:08,290
idea civilizations are out there

3376
02:33:13,440 --> 02:33:11,140
wouldn't the government then feel safer

3377
02:33:16,219 --> 02:33:13,450
and saying not only are they out there

3378
02:33:18,139 --> 02:33:16,229
they might be here right now

3379
02:33:20,840 --> 02:33:18,149
oh well I don't speak for the government

3380
02:33:22,760 --> 02:33:20,850
you may have noticed that III don't know

3381
02:33:26,059 --> 02:33:22,770
that that's the case the reasons for

3382
02:33:27,889 --> 02:33:26,069
secrecy are in my mind first to figure

3383
02:33:29,510 --> 02:33:27,899
out how the darn things work they make

3384
02:33:32,389 --> 02:33:29,520
wonderful weapons delivery and defense

3385
02:33:34,819 --> 02:33:32,399
system you got a dick you got Roswell in

3386
02:33:36,410 --> 02:33:34,829
several other cases rule number one for

3387
02:33:38,779 --> 02:33:36,420
security is you can't tell your friends

3388
02:33:40,040 --> 02:33:38,789
without telling your enemies second

3389
02:33:41,359 --> 02:33:40,050
problem what if the other guy figures

3390
02:33:42,859 --> 02:33:41,369
out how they work before you do you

3391
02:33:46,340 --> 02:33:42,869
don't want them to know you know they

3392
02:33:47,989 --> 02:33:46,350
know third and perhaps most important if

3393
02:33:50,120 --> 02:33:47,999
there weren't to be an announcement made

3394
02:33:52,519 --> 02:33:50,130
by highly trusted individuals around the

3395
02:33:54,950 --> 02:33:52,529
planet a little hard to find but my

3396
02:33:58,099 --> 02:33:54,960
favorite do it is the Queen and the Pope

3397
02:34:00,620 --> 02:33:58,109
how's that for not good if they were to

3398
02:34:03,529 --> 02:34:00,630
say indeed the planets being visited and

3399
02:34:04,910 --> 02:34:03,539
they're neutral what would happen church

3400
02:34:06,590 --> 02:34:04,920
attendance will go up mental hospital

3401
02:34:09,139 --> 02:34:06,600
admissions would go up the stock market

3402
02:34:11,090 --> 02:34:09,149
would go down I think the younger

3403
02:34:13,219 --> 02:34:11,100
generation would push for a new Buell

3404
02:34:15,559 --> 02:34:13,229
ourselves instead of as Americans

3405
02:34:17,540 --> 02:34:15,569
Canadians Greeks Peruvians whatever as

3406
02:34:19,580 --> 02:34:17,550
earthling and I don't know about you but

3407
02:34:22,219 --> 02:34:19,590
I don't know of any government on this

3408
02:34:24,229 --> 02:34:22,229
planet that wants its citizens to owe

3409
02:34:25,639 --> 02:34:24,239
their allegiance to the planet instead

3410
02:34:27,529 --> 02:34:25,649
of that individual government

3411
02:34:31,160 --> 02:34:27,539
nationalism seems to be the only game in

3412
02:34:34,550 --> 02:34:31,170
town yeah so these are the reasons for

3413
02:34:38,540 --> 02:34:34,560
keeping secrets also one reason I give

3414
02:34:41,809 --> 02:34:38,550
is that all these people who apparently

3415
02:34:44,450 --> 02:34:41,819
got shot down if you will government

3416
02:34:47,179 --> 02:34:44,460
doesn't want to admit that pilots won't

3417
02:34:48,889 --> 02:34:47,189
go up anymore you know so you didn't

3418
02:34:49,250 --> 02:34:48,899
hear any fear of panic or anything like

3419
02:34:56,120 --> 02:34:49,260
that

3420
02:34:59,989 --> 02:34:56,130
is deciding things for the government

3421
02:35:03,410 --> 02:34:59,999
it's got his own purposes and really

3422
02:35:05,359 --> 02:35:03,420
probably underestimates the wisdom of

3423
02:35:07,880 --> 02:35:05,369
the public let's generally been the case

3424
02:35:10,700 --> 02:35:07,890
over the years in other words I don't

3425
02:35:13,370 --> 02:35:10,710
think they will behave stupidly the

3426
02:35:16,429 --> 02:35:13,380
other thing of course is if as we have

3427
02:35:18,830 --> 02:35:16,439
the situation now where the oil

3428
02:35:20,149 --> 02:35:18,840
interests and other industrialists are

3429
02:35:23,120 --> 02:35:20,159
putting money into political campaigns

3430
02:35:25,700 --> 02:35:23,130
to elect their preferred candidates

3431
02:35:27,469 --> 02:35:25,710
wouldn't that also prevent the

3432
02:35:29,870 --> 02:35:27,479
government from saying anything that

3433
02:35:30,440 --> 02:35:29,880
would hurt that particular situation

3434
02:35:32,210 --> 02:35:30,450
they

3435
02:35:34,580 --> 02:35:32,220
say for example that when a politician

3436
02:35:37,070 --> 02:35:34,590
gets elected to the US Congress half

3437
02:35:39,560 --> 02:35:37,080
their time half the amount of time they

3438
02:35:42,110 --> 02:35:39,570
spend on the job is getting money to run

3439
02:35:44,570 --> 02:35:42,120
the next campaign well we do have a

3440
02:35:47,240 --> 02:35:44,580
strange political system let's face it

3441
02:35:50,660 --> 02:35:47,250
look around the world it is a strange

3442
02:35:53,171 --> 02:35:50,670
political system and we don't have where

3443
02:35:57,560 --> 02:35:53,181
Thomas Jefferson and John Adams you know

3444
02:36:03,020 --> 02:35:57,570
etc we have a system that is not geared

3445
02:36:04,990 --> 02:36:03,030
toward 2014 world internet etc I mean

3446
02:36:08,091 --> 02:36:05,000
why don't we inaugurate a president

3447
02:36:10,220 --> 02:36:08,101
January 20th or so after we have an

3448
02:36:13,640 --> 02:36:10,230
election in November because it took a

3449
02:36:16,850 --> 02:36:13,650
long time to get to Washington back then

3450
02:36:19,430 --> 02:36:16,860
you know we you'd think we'd modify some

3451
02:36:21,710 --> 02:36:19,440
of these things what we haven't so you

3452
02:36:24,890 --> 02:36:21,720
can make up all kinds of reasons why

3453
02:36:27,801 --> 02:36:24,900
governments do or don't do this or that

3454
02:36:31,850 --> 02:36:27,811
I don't think big disclosure is coming

3455
02:36:34,551 --> 02:36:31,860
soon what what can I say me I've had it

3456
02:36:36,560 --> 02:36:34,561
I've been asked how come you're still

3457
02:36:37,881 --> 02:36:36,570
alive Stan why do you ask that

3458
02:36:39,381 --> 02:36:37,891
well you've been saying the government's

3459
02:36:41,780 --> 02:36:39,391
covering up you're using terms like

3460
02:36:44,390 --> 02:36:41,790
cosmic Watergate I say I may be doing

3461
02:36:47,091 --> 02:36:44,400
exactly what they want get in the world

3462
02:36:48,890 --> 02:36:47,101
ready for when they do decide maybe in

3463
02:36:51,710 --> 02:36:48,900
the middle of Yankee Stadium a saucer

3464
02:36:53,930 --> 02:36:51,720
comes down and says okay guys I don't

3465
02:36:56,000 --> 02:36:53,940
know everybody knows it who knows me

3466
02:36:58,310 --> 02:36:56,010
knows that I respect security for

3467
02:37:01,310 --> 02:36:58,320
example and I don't put classified stuff

3468
02:37:04,310 --> 02:37:01,320
out on the table well the alien comes

3469
02:37:06,230 --> 02:37:04,320
down a silvery uniform and says Klaatu

3470
02:37:08,450 --> 02:37:06,240
Barada nikto now that's when he was

3471
02:37:10,280 --> 02:37:08,460
activating Gort in the original movie

3472
02:37:12,560 --> 02:37:10,290
hey Stanton Friedman please tell our

3473
02:37:15,440 --> 02:37:12,570
listeners where they can find more of

3474
02:37:17,810 --> 02:37:15,450
the stuff that you do ok the simplest

3475
02:37:22,310 --> 02:37:17,820
thing is to go to my website triple w

3476
02:37:26,060 --> 02:37:22,320
dot Stanton Friedman that's fr ie D MPEG

3477
02:37:28,360 --> 02:37:26,070
and calm and it lists my books and

3478
02:37:35,240 --> 02:37:28,370
papers and all that sort of stuff and

3479
02:37:38,740 --> 02:37:35,250
also my email address is FS p hy s

3480
02:37:43,830 --> 02:37:38,750
flying saucer physicists if you will at

3481
02:37:49,050 --> 02:37:43,840
Bell Aliant dotnet beol a

3482
02:37:52,469 --> 02:37:49,060
l/i a and T dotnet and I respond to

3483
02:37:54,149 --> 02:37:52,479
emails he doesn't have a cell phone but

3484
02:37:56,729 --> 02:37:54,159
he certainly responds to emails I can

3485
02:37:59,040 --> 02:37:56,739
guarantee that okay Chris O'Brien can be

3486
02:38:01,439 --> 02:37:59,050
found at our strange planet calm

3487
02:38:03,809 --> 02:38:01,449
that's our strange planet calm his

3488
02:38:06,359 --> 02:38:03,819
latest book is stalking the herd if you

3489
02:38:08,639 --> 02:38:06,369
buy the book from him he keeps all the

3490
02:38:10,290 --> 02:38:08,649
money for the book he signs it any

3491
02:38:12,990 --> 02:38:10,300
numbers hid in fact any of the books

3492
02:38:14,700 --> 02:38:13,000
that he has he'll be happy to sign you

3493
02:38:17,010 --> 02:38:14,710
can find us on Twitter we're known as

3494
02:38:21,479 --> 02:38:17,020
the para cast we are the para cast on

3495
02:38:23,849 --> 02:38:21,489
Twitter our website is the para cast com

3496
02:38:27,030 --> 02:38:23,859
that's the para cast calm but if you

3497
02:38:28,710 --> 02:38:27,040
forget then just say para cast calm that

3498
02:38:31,769 --> 02:38:28,720
gets to us too because I bought up all

3499
02:38:34,729 --> 02:38:31,779
those related domains we also have power

3500
02:38:37,469 --> 02:38:34,739
cast fan clubs plural at Facebook

3501
02:38:39,840 --> 02:38:37,479
Stanton Friedman I'm happy to see you're

3502
02:38:41,910 --> 02:38:39,850
still up and around and happy healthy

3503
02:38:44,010 --> 02:38:41,920
and rare and ago thanks for joining us

3504
02:38:51,080 --> 02:38:44,020
on the power cast pleasure to do it and

3505
02:38:57,100 --> 02:38:53,581
[Music]

3506
02:39:00,011 --> 02:38:57,110
the para cast featuring gene Steinberg

3507
02:39:03,001 --> 02:39:00,021
and Christopher O'Brien is a copyrighted

3508
02:39:06,731 --> 02:39:03,011
presentation of making the impossible